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So WotA is bad but this is fine

THE RlVER KlNG··5 votes·678 views

https://youtu.be/DKXw7CNUCiE?t=28m40s

that was what, a Q and 2-3 autos? and heals for over 1000 HP in 2 seconds?

Riot will keep Vlad / Fiddle / Mundo / Morde / Cho'Gath etc. down for too much healing and removed WotA

but AD champions can just get 1-2 lifesteal items and heal more than any of those champions 10x more efficiently, Gunblade (an item I'd argue is even worse than WotA because of its absurd active and the fact that it applies to everyting not just spells) still exists, and Riot does nothing to curb ADC's having no downtime lategame because of how they can get BT and never come out negative in a fight

or AD bruisers like Fiora and Irelia and Riven and Camille building BT with Ravenous and SV and becoming as hard to take down as a juggernaut but with CC and mobility on top of whatever healing they have built into their kit

if spell vamp and healing champions are considered toxic then something needs to be done about lifesteal and how much it child-proofs the game for a lot of AD champions

11 Comments

GULAG 4 U5 votes

Oh hey look. Fiora is building 4 damage items as a melee champion. She'd get blown up (literally). Terrible example. That's a cheesy build, not meta. It's not even strong. You only balance champions around actual builds that are being used, not some random cheesy sh*t no one actually plays.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

Except SoloRenektonOnly actually did really well that game and eventually won

I'm not sure what you are trying to say really, since Fiora's highest winrate build has four damage items, boots, and GA

GULAG 4 U3 votes

Well I guess by that logic, because I did good on tank jhin it means it's decent?

http://www.op.gg/champion/fiora/statistics/top

Most builds are 2 damage into one def, and if you build 3 damage, that means you're fed as fuck and snowballing, so of couse you press your lead and making ending even easier by buying more damage.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

Lmao that's your logic, that one game determines what is meta and what isn't, your first comment almost said that outright

Linking to her op.gg page proves what i said exactly - she's building BC, hydra, Bt, steraks, boots, and the odd ga / dmp / sv - she's even started to dip into lethality to get eon and yomuus

GULAG 4 U3 votes

Steraks isn't a damage item, it's a bruiser item. So is BC.

The "I did well on jhin one game" comment is referring to the fact you mentioned how well SRO did with that build, which is one game. OPGG clearly shows you don't build what SRO did in the video, it's BC-RH-BT which is 32% ls, and his build had 42%. Not even including masteries (For example, W'sB).

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

And yet you continue to harp on something that wasn't even the point of this post

and lifesteal is cancer on any ad diver / bruiser / skirmisher i dont care what you call it. this was the point of my post, not what winrate fiora has when she builds x item.

steraks and bc are damage items designed for tanky ad champions but end up being abused by everyone.

Ahristocats3 votes

wota was fine

xypherous wasn't

Trash MammaI3 votes

While Spellvamp was (and still kinda is pretty dumb) lifesteal is worse and far easier to use. Riot is just biased against a lot of stuff

Naomi CoffeeGoat1 votes

Even for the decent amount of stats it gave I'm pretty sure no one built that item unless they had health costs. Vlad and Morde were the only champs I ever saw build it if they were ever even played. Sometimes Akali would, but she just normally stuck with gunblade.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

Cass and Karth would sometimes build it, and I saw it on mages like Ziggs who could spam poke

NotCounter1 votes

are you complaining about ravenous hydra healing while wave clearing? cause that's the first thing i saw when i hit play. tsk tsk

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