Slight buffs to Veigar that would make his PBE changes more bearable

Spicy Rice··1 votes·531 views

We all know about the veigar changes that are on the PBE right now. Some love it and think its perfect, others hate it and believe it will make our favorite yordle mage unplayable (specifically in ranked).

Here are a few ideas I had one night while watching anime at 3 am and half high/half about to sleep while on nyquil.

  1. Decrease the mana costs of his q or make him gain ap on any minion kill, not just q.

Due to the mana regen nerfs along with how riot has made farming AP with veigar more important than ever (with the ratio reduc on his ult). In order to help with that vision of veigar actually having a meaningful amount of ap from his stacks, either a mana cost reduction or changing the passive to something like Sion's w would help remedy the mana burden that veiger players now face with the current changes.

  1. Change his passive to either 2-3% missing mana per sec or change it to 1-2% of maximum mana per sec. Once again, this is supposed to help with ap farming. Instead of the buff proposed in #1, this one would just be helping him with his high mana costs and how items don't give as good mana regen as they used to.

  2. Every time Q kills a minion, restore 25-50% of the mana cost of cast. This once again is to help with the wizards mana issues. By having this along with the Q changes in the PBE means that veigar would be able to use Q farming as an actual tool (without him running oom doing it). As for how much it restores per kill, I as a veigar player would prefer 50% per minion kill meaning a potential of infinite q farming, but for balance sake, it would probably be 25% meaning a potential of 50% mana back per cast

Thats all for now folks, upvote downvote comment as you please

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4 Comments

Joe Dredd3 votes

That'd be incredibly broken and Veigar would be perma ban. You obviously have no idea how to balance, or you are simply balancing with a bronze mentality.

thinking man1 votes

These ideas are shit.

Spicy Rice1 votes

Either of you care to elaborate why you dont like the ideas? Just saying its shit is easy, coming up with why it would be broken is a bit harder.

Please be mature in your responses, im trying to start a didiscussion not a who has the biggest dick contest

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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Either of you care to elaborate why you dont like the ideas? Just saying its shit is easy, coming up with why it would be broken is a bit harder.

Please be mature in your responses, im trying to start a didiscussion not a who has the biggest dick contest

Gaining AP on any minion kill removes any purpose in even HAVING Q. You'd max W, nuke a minion wave for 6-8 AP, then wait until you did it again. Any interaction would interesting disappear in favor of the 6-8 AP every 30 seconds.

For the mana ones, just build some mana items (you can do that you know. Infinite stacking AP means the items are pretty good, and you can get them while doing damage still).

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