Is Riot aware of how strong Anti-Tank stats are right now?

TahmKench Expert·8/30/2016, 4:13:23 PM·92 votes·4,481 views

Or do we need to wait until 2018 for the tank class rework?

158 Comments

TheProAndrew8/30/2016, 9:10:17 PM16 votes

when you see Jhin Lucian Twitch and other adcs building item 3142 and item 3147 instead of a regular adc build u see a problem

Elwe The Jungler8/30/2016, 9:09:22 PM12 votes

item 3071 + item 3036 = Almost true damage. Doesn't even need another items. Dead Sejuani in 0.5 seconds.

Ralanr8/30/2016, 4:14:12 PM9 votes

You just asked this. And it will probably be mid season 7.

Xeruon8/30/2016, 5:07:25 PM9 votes

This has been said a million times, but you tank mains's skulls are as thick as your champion's armor and MR.

The only ArPen item that's actually good vs tanks is item 3036, flat pen items such as item 3142 item 3147 can't and won't shred tanks, end of story.

Targon8/30/2016, 10:50:08 PM8 votes

Early game, flat armor penetration from item 3142 and item 3147 are very strong, even against tanks which usually have at most 1 armor item (since a tank will usually start building some MR too). For example, if a tank builds item 3068 as a first item (50 armor, 500 health), and a midlaner builds item 3157 first item (45 armor), they'll pretty much take the same amount of raw damage from an AD champ building Youmuu's first (albiet the tank also has more HP).

By mid game, a champion that utilizes item 3071 well can still do very good damage against a tank and allows other sources of AD without armor penetration to do increased damage

And by late game, item 3036 and item 3033 can cut a tank's armor down significantly in conjunction with the other armor penetration items from above.

doiminat0r36008/31/2016, 1:11:03 AM7 votes

I just think we need some kind of balancing to counter how plentiful % armor pen items are. Much like how Crit was nerfed with the item 3143 mini-rework. Maybe we need something like that to where items cant just get rid of armor like it's paper with items that can easily be put into their build with little downsides.

dunkeroni8/30/2016, 9:55:38 PM6 votes

%Health is now a standard on all champions and items :P

The Deckowner8/31/2016, 4:13:23 AM5 votes

I just really wanna see youmuus get nerf, and those armor pen item abusers need to have their abilities' base dmg lowered with higher scaling.

genya038/30/2016, 6:47:41 PM4 votes

Rammus what are tanks?

Erockandroll8/30/2016, 4:22:49 PM3 votes

I dunno, While the Anti tanks stats might be a bit better than before, Those items have become a lot more niche. LW isn't even a core item on many ADC builds anymore. Building Anti Tank usually means giving up burst or dueling power against other ADCs.

Many late game carries will simply focus Crit instead, to maximize their damage against all targets. Though Tanks won't exactly melt in such conditions. This may be part of the reason why Tanky fighters are such a problem.

Nahui8/30/2016, 4:29:53 PM3 votes

Good, tankiness ruins games.

SlashStriker8/30/2016, 9:25:44 PM2 votes

when it comes to armor pen item 3147 item 3142 item 3156 40 armor pen what are these going to do vs 300 armor exactly?

item 3036 - 45% bonus armor pen 45% of 200 is 90 item 3036 2.25 times stronger that combo item 3147 item 3142 item 3156

you build 3 items item 3147 item 3142 item 3156 to counter item 1031 800 gold item? wow...