Soloing Dragon early on should not be a thing.

lostbob117··3 votes·711 views

Dragon should gain bonus damage and bonus defenses; if only 1 person is near him for the first 15mins or so of the game. This creates a bigger risk of wanting to solo Dragon and makes it where you need at least 2 to get it and that puts suspicion on you. However, Dragon should feel somewhat threaten and should be taken by more than 1 person. Especially early on in the game.

23 Comments

DisasterSola2 votes

Hiemer still has dat level 1 dragon solo.

SlytherMinn1 votes

Nunu at level 5, Warwick at Level 4, Vi at level 3 all can do this within the first 5 minutes of the game.

EDIT: Olaf at level 3.

thinking man1 votes

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Nunu at level 5, Warwick at Level 4, Vi at level 3 all can do this within the first 5 minutes of the game.

Everybody can technically solo it at 3.

even Soraka

SlytherMinn1 votes

Not without items. I'm saying regardless of items, runes, and masteries, these champs can do it Vanilla.

OhOkYeah1 votes

No lol. Show me the math. I've done the math and they can't do it at level 3 without items, runes or masteries.

windwolf7772 votes

MasterYi Forget me?

SlytherMinn1 votes

Item dependent

windwolf7771 votes

item 1039 upgrade, item 3006 summoner 11 ??

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Not without items. I'm saying regardless of items, runes, and masteries, these champs can do it Vanilla.

OH, I just noticed this post. My mistake. You might want to put this in the OP

SlytherMinn1 votes

I'm not the OP

windwolf7771 votes

Wellp o.o''

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

unless they fixed it cait can do it lv 1 just by abusing her range.

Raja Chachki2 votes

Olaf y'all forgot my lvl 3 dragon, I AM good for SOMETHING

SouL1ess1 votes

Why does dragon stats scale linearly with the game again?

Buff the shit out of early dragon, change its scaling with time. It doesn't need to "gain bonus shit against solo noobs", just increase its stats so you can't do it in the first 10 min of the game easily.

Reaper Soraka1 votes

I saw an Olaf solo him at level 1 a couple weeks ago.(During this patch/update) It seemed to put him pretty far behind though, as he didn't seem able to gank any lanes without a death himself.

Derp Princess1 votes

Or you know, it's a freaking DRAGON ... it should at least be a ton stronger than it is at all points of the game.

IcyPepper1 votes

Somehow, an Udyr soloed dragon before the five minute mark.

Jesus.

I mean, Pantheon got nerfed solely for that, but Rito forbid Lee Sin and Udyr get nerfed too...

windwolf7771 votes

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Somehow, an Udyr soloed dragon before the five minute mark.

Jesus.

I mean, Pantheon got nerfed solely for that, but Rito forbid Lee Sin and Udyr get nerfed too...

Attack speed and dot from tiger, sustain/free shield for turtle, and keeping the passive up. Not that hard to do it as udyr at all

IcyPepper2 votes

I just don't know why they nerfed Pantheon solely because he could do that too. :/

windwolf7771 votes

Oh I agree. I think that was a (somewhat) unique strength of the champ at the time, and an easily counterable one too. I mean, even if he isn't your bot support/jungler wastes like what? 15 seconds at most checking? I wish they didn't remove it

IcyPepper1 votes

Lee Sin can do it. Udyr can do it, blegh.

Pantheon is strong, but he's not the strongest.

Skia Asteri1 votes

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I mean, Pantheon got nerfed solely for that, but Rito forbid Lee Sin and Udyr get nerfed too...

Since then they pretty much halved its damage output (they said it had its attack speed increased to match, but it was not really). Pretty much anyone who can clear 3 jungle camps can kill dragon level 3 with item 3713 and two smite charges now.

Anyone. Even Anivia

IcyPepper1 votes

Great, now I'm attempted to try Anivia jungle.

If I succeed, I'm going to add you and gift you a skin, you monster.

Skia Asteri1 votes

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Great, now I'm attempted to try Anivia jungle.

If I succeed, I'm going to add you and gift you a skin, you monster.

I have not tried it, just saw a screen shot from a bit list of champions that could solo it after they changed dragon's attack speed.

Too busy with Morgana jungle. I should go try soloing it at level 3 in a custom game now.

EDIT: Just solo'd dragon at level 3 with Morgana , I think I will make a Youtube video of it later.

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