Why did they wait till mid season to address adcs?

Ranmaru·May 20, 2018·4 votes·1,987 views

Adcs have been fucking dominating the meta for almost the length of an entire fucking season. Im tired of all of this bullshit where adcs get fucking steriods from the supports while being strong on there own.

No class should have the most DOT while being ranged and having some form of self peel for all of them. Champions like fiora/riven should do the same damage as them if they get on top of there targets.

People say its fine that adcs do the most DOT but it isn't. They are ranged and most of them have some form of self peel.

Im just saying it, Why are we waiting for mid season for shitty adc changes. We waited a season and we get this? If anything its not going to matter since you nerfed every class besides supports.

21 Comments

Cowgirl EdMay 20, 20182 votes

Some Rioters weren't Gold yet and they wanted to be so they get a free skin

DigitalExileMay 20, 20181 votes

Only reason they felt 'overpowered' was because how overtuned support champs were. Look at the stats for last two seasons and notice the win rate of tanks and supports in higher elo. ADC's will always be a problem for low elo players - 98% of this board community.

RanmaruMay 20, 20182 votes

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Only reason they felt 'overpowered' was because how overtuned support champs were. Look at the stats for last two seasons and notice the win rate of tanks and supports in higher elo. ADC's will always be a problem for low elo players - 98% of this board community.

Im sorry but me getting hit for 350 dmg when the adc has two cheap items. Second of all, You do understand adcs are more of a problem in high elo

KlydeFrogMay 20, 20181 votes

What items?

RanmaruMay 21, 20181 votes

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What items?

item 3087 item 3031

101100111000May 21, 20181 votes

Those aren't exactly cheap.

KlydeFrogMay 21, 20181 votes

I was literally about to write that lol sooooo adc has like 9 kills and over 100cs and noone would straight by those so your looking at another 1100 gold for beserker greaves .

AzadetheMay 20, 20181 votes

Honestly? They do this every season. It's how they separate pros from nubs in more certain ways than "Luck."

New players, or poor players have a lot of trouble adjusting to item reworks, while pros generally have extensive PBE play with the changes before they came out, and also have a better idea of how to use the new items / balances to begin with.

Personally I don't know how they could ever get accredited as a college sport, since they rework the game in MAJOR significant ways every year during the season and give every player a good average 10-20 free losses because the changes translate into mid tier players playing like bronze for a few games.

When they reworked Evelynn , the first 14 days I managed to pull a whopping 13% win rate on her, because I had played her AD/Hybrid for years, and AP and the old runes were ill suited for her. I also was getting rickrolled by Challengers selling elo boosts to some of my opponents..... so that was fun.... (You get a disproportionate amount of Elo boosters on the OTHER team when you play jungle yourself, because most Smurfs Queue Jungle).

By the end of the season I got her up to 42% from that 13%..... so for awhile after I learned a new playstyle on her, I was utter garbage, but after that I was pulling about 70% win rates.

And what's worse is..... when they make these changes, it's hard to practice them on norms because of Draft rules, bans, etc, and Blind pick is just garbage tier for practice. So deficiencies always cross over into ranked.

KlydeFrogMay 21, 20181 votes

Your talking oranges and apples here. She went from hybrid to straight ap

AzadetheMay 21, 20181 votes

What's apples and oranges about a conversation about "general" drastic changes Riot makes to the game mid season?

P.S. Most "Hybrid Eves were only Hybrid in the sense they had item 3146 " Other than that, their core items were item 3078 item 3074 item 3001

P.P.S. I know the OP is raging about adc, but that's just a perspective debate on a larger topic..... There are assassins and mages who prove far more troublesome regularly than adcs. But people generally are offended by the roles they DON'T play rather than the ones they do.

KlydeFrogMay 21, 20181 votes

i mean your talking basically a new champion compared to what the op is crying about. ADCs have been"meta" lol if you want to call it that since what season 2 so again there is no such thing as meta.

AzadetheMay 21, 20181 votes

I don't personally think adcs have ever been "the meta". I think that's a perspective issue. There's always 1 losing adc, and often, it's other positions carrying.

I just pretty much 1v5'd as Zyra Support for instance.

Jungles can overcarry, as can mids or tops. It's not one position.

ADC potential has been high, but it's also limited by their ability to be peeled. Good players can always take down an adc with a tank/melee/assassin etc, if they know the angles and how not to feed life steal.

What DOES change is gear, skill balances, character reworks, introductions of more hyper carries without a significant ban change to prevent them from playing in arenas with players who don't know how to counter them.

KlydeFrogMay 21, 20181 votes

Exactly there is no meta. Its only champs. Adcs have always existed in the game

Blu 1May 20, 20181 votes

Same reason it took so long to fix Ardent Censor: favouritism

SwiftKitten88May 20, 20181 votes

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Same reason it took so long to fix Ardent Censor: favouritism

becuase item 3504 wasn't the issue that made ADC's op.. its was the ADC that made ADC's OP.

i mean sure item 3504 made them even MORE broken.. but to all the idiots who said " its not "adc's its " adc were op before they broke and they have been OP after they fixed it. ADC being broken had nothing to do with , it just exacerbated the problem.

KlydeFrogMay 20, 20182 votes

Bro if adcs are soooo strong and dominating go in ranked and play adc then

D357R0Y3RMay 20, 20181 votes

they announced adcs nerf in january 2018 lol but it took a long time because they wanted to do it right

Triumphant MindMay 20, 20181 votes

I really don't understand ADC's are supposed to be the main dmg on the team while trading mobility for dmg as most people counter ADC's such as Caitlyn she has the largest range in the game and auto attacks are key for her but anyone who has a stun or charm they're more and likely going to kill her,

RanmaruMay 20, 20181 votes

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I really don't understand ADC's are supposed to be the main dmg on the team while trading mobility for dmg as most people counter ADC's such as Caitlyn she has the largest range in the game and auto attacks are key for her but anyone who has a stun or charm they're more and likely going to kill her,

Vayne Draven Ezreal Jinx Kaisa Lucian Kalista Tristana

KlydeFrogMay 20, 20181 votes

Again there is no such thing as meta and 2nd thing. Your complaining about something thats been in league since what season 2. God forbid the attack damage carry does what they are supposed to do

ZephyrDrakeMay 21, 20181 votes

DoT... self peel... I really want to know if you even know what an DoT ability even is since auto attacks do not qualify as DoT abilities in this game