You made Darius a better character now make him a better champion

Dr Dormidon··2 votes·264 views

Riots afraid to change concept always sticking with bad attributes that not effective or interesting (such as being super vulnerable against poke/kite, having 0 utility/engage). Well they left him with stacks and true damage nuke (reset) and these things is actually what make Darius who he is. Stacks, nuke, reset. This is the idea. Ruthlessly destroying everyone on his way 1 by 1 splashing blood around. Ye sure thing Darius needs to achieve this scenario by tryhard. Here comes the problem. He pulls his team down by his gameplay. He does literally nothing for teammates when he have no opportunity for dunk mode. Slowly walking around untill someone engage or simply eating poke. Stable wave clear? Hell he deals 0 dmg to super minions and structures. When you have Darius on your team opponents always abuse this by fast rotations, turtling, hit and run strategy. You literally will be playing 4v5 unless d-man finally catch someone (reminder that he deals not that reliable amount of late game damage). This is why no one use him in lcs or at least in solo q high elo. He has solid counterplay options but suddenly no answer to this at all.

Heres my opinion how to increase his strategic value (ye this is what he lacks most, not even mobility and stuff). 1 The easiest way. Make his damage against objective untis (nashor, drake, turrets, inhibitors, superminions) comparable with carries. This WILL force opponents to finally attempt something. No idea about the formula. This might be Noxian Might activation against objectives or % increased dmg on W (Solid reason for him to learn W instead of blind 2nd maxing armpen from E skill.) This thing shouldn't be possible pre 20 minutes. 2. Worse one but still reasonable. Sacrifice offensive side by doing 2nd version of pull that applies solid (not less than 2 seconds) CC instead simply slow. Good option to engage or defense. Champions that got affected by spell will get bleed-immune status for 5 seconds. You may perform this only when you activate W and smash E with empowered attack up. This will also waste empowered attack and send W on cooldown. 3. Say no to dunks. When Darius ults someone without any stacks this will grant !massive! movement speed buff to allies around (850 range). Buuut no dunks, man. Still better than being kited without any hope on happy ending.

11 Comments

Glîtchy1 votes

I was hoping by "better champ", you meant not letting him pubstomp EVERYONE while requiring 3 champs to gang up and kill him

Dr Dormidon3 votes

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I was hoping by "better champ", you meant not letting him pubstomp EVERYONE while requiring 3 champs to gang up and kill him

Bs.

Ahristocats3 votes

twitch main

don't bother

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Hmm, yes. Remove the weakness the champion is supposed to have by design, that's a great idea

Dr Dormidon1 votes

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Hmm, yes. Remove the weakness the champion is supposed to have by design, that's a great idea

Are you dumb? This isn't removing the weakness at all. Genius... Just allows him to do SOMETHING ELSE beside mindless dunks that he's not allowed to do 95% of gameplay.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

His weakness is he can't waveclear well, and is slow so he can't keep up with map rotations. You are suggesting things to remove those weaknesses

Dr Dormidon1 votes

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His weakness is he can't waveclear well, and is slow so he can't keep up with map rotations. You are suggesting things to remove those weaknesses

Rofl. This isn't even a part of his design. Just a thing they did not include because they didn't see that coming at all. Times have changed really hard. The worst part even his strong sides are pretty shitty and you tell me about that? What is ur elo friend? Bronze or something? Such analytics... UPD ok undranked guy that spams URF a lot. Definitely he knows something about design of champions. No idea why people below platinum are even allowed to type in gameplay board.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

First: number one way to get anyone to completely discount what you're saying is to insult your opponent and bring up rank.

Second: in general, no, the state of the game has not changed a whole lot since Darius's rework. Same style of champions, same gameplay style. In fact, with tanks and protect the ADC comps being prevalent, team fights are even more common, which is where Darius excels.

Third: you had no actual response to my comment. It was a dismissal than insults and bragging. Explain how something that was in his design is not how he's supposed to work. Juggernauts are not meant to be split pushers (well, except Nasus, but he was grandfathered into the class), they aren't meant to waveclear, they are meant to dive into the enemy team during fights and threaten the back line. What they lack in mobility, they make up for in damage and tankiness. Giving him ways to get around those weaknesses only unbalanced the game and is in the wrong direction.

Dr Dormidon1 votes

So Yorick cannot split with sheen passive, kk. So Mordekaiser connot siege objectives with dragon, kk. They are not meant to have such tools. Kk. Yep it changed a lot. When they reworked him there were old adcs rushing pd/shyv, ie, lw. They dealt completely 0 dmg compared to current ones. Yet Rito managed to nerf Darius before they actually released reworked adc/apc/assassin classes. Who the hell does things like that? Nerfing champ in old environment just to bring new one in next 2 patches. Old supps had less tools to protect too. So yeah he was a beast without features I included in post. But now everyone around deal shitloads of damage and at the same time they have too much peel/protection. Right now you need some ways to be useful for your team when you can't do what u rr supposed to do. Everyone have options in that case, but not Darius. Well may be Garen would be in that list too.

hoganftw1 votes

Darius just needs a tuneup. His numbers ain't enough to make him a real banworthy threat these days. When he gets in, it feels like it takes forever before his passive stacks get to five.

Dr Dormidon1 votes

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Darius just needs a tuneup. His numbers ain't enough to make him a real banworthy threat these days. When he gets in, it feels like it takes forever before his passive stacks get to five.

His numbers are pretty ok. It's all about freaking design. Completely outdated in current meta.

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