Jayce deals absurd dmg without taking any risk

Dr Dormidon··35 votes·1,591 views

I remember old times when it was enough to stay behind creeps to feel safe against his full combo. When he was missing his E+Q that could give you the oppurtunity to beat him. But now for some reason he just smash W in range mode and then transforms melee to deal some weird dmg. Earlier he never could save his W ranged AS buff during melee form (Q, 3 autos with the buff and E = 50-80% of your HP without E+Q combo. Freaking melee form for real!?). Low risk high reward type (I laugh hard when I see people complaining about Jayce skill based nature).

Seriously I can see some nerfs last patch and on PBE but I swear that would make him weak against some decent machups and still overpowered-tier against melee guys. Just remove this dumb W attack speed buff with modifier on his W melee form and we're done. 100% this would solve his problem. He benefits lethality meta too hard. item 3071 item 3036 item 3814 item 3142 rip armor some extra movement speed and freaking shield which makes his squshy-ness issue kinda irrelevant (Low risk again for such unique setup).

21 Comments

Edge of Daybreak12 votes

So you're complaining about no risk while complaining about him jumping into melee range. Riot hire this man!

GULAG 4 U3 votes

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Dr Dormidon2 votes

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So you're complaining about no risk while complaining about him jumping into melee range. Riot hire this man!

The worst part of it when he jumps into melee range he finish his cheese combo with E kicking you away with that thing. Nice trade for him if you're not Irelia Fiora

Stars Shaper7 votes

Are you crazy or what?

The W->Switch to Hammer->Q is the oldest combo on Jayce. it's been around for at least since I joined in S3.

Also what is it with upvoting pure lies? Are we going into "gravity doesn't exist" in this community too?

GayFluffyUnicorn4 votes

Many here on the boards hate jayce, they skim the frontpage of gameplay, read hate against jayce and upvote it. No matter the content. Its against jayce so it must be good.

Dr Dormidon1 votes

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Many here on the boards hate jayce, they skim the frontpage of gameplay, read hate against jayce and upvote it. No matter the content. Its against jayce so it must be good.

Kinda shows real state of this pog champ) People simply hate him and this is totally fair. But hey. Ptsst we can nerf Darius for god sake!

Dr Dormidon1 votes

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Are you crazy or what?

The W->Switch to Hammer->Q is the oldest combo on Jayce. it's been around for at least since I joined in S3.

Also what is it with upvoting pure lies? Are we going into "gravity doesn't exist" in this community too?

Ye the thing he was never ABLE TO DEAL SO MUCH DMG with such idiot pog combo. He was simply dying for that "trade" in old days. Now you can't punish him for this shit (qq bye bye 80% hp)

Stars Shaper1 votes

Except you can, what did change over the patches is that his poke got a lot stronger because he doesn't need to build Tear now in order to save enough mana.

You are really terrible concerning balance and objective discussion. Hating some1 doesn't make any argument against him valid.

Dr Dormidon1 votes

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Except you can, what did change over the patches is that his poke got a lot stronger because he doesn't need to build Tear now in order to save enough mana.

You are really terrible concerning balance and objective discussion. Hating some1 doesn't make any argument against him valid.

Say it to US government xd

EbonyBladeJ886 votes

Play a certain little somebody called Yorick . Haven't lost to a Jayce yet with him.

Of course, many of the Jayce players I have destroyed with Yorick proceed to claim that he's broken, so...

Not so good when they're on the receiving end of a stomp, now is it?

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Tychusfindlay9192 votes

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Play a certain little somebody called Yorick . Haven't lost to a Jayce yet with him.

Of course, many of the Jayce players I have destroyed with Yorick proceed to claim that he's broken, so...

Not so good when they're on the receiving end of a stomp, now is it?

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So you have to gimp yourself with a medicore pick to destroy jayce, and that's assuming you dont pick first... hmmm, good advice.

JustARivenMain2 votes

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So you have to gimp yourself with a medicore pick to destroy jayce, and that's assuming you dont pick first... hmmm, good advice.

See the old saying is "Yorick walks into a bar, there is no counter" is all too true against most melee laners as Yorick, even some old fashion ranged toplaners, such as Swain/Jayce (Not Quinn cause poke but if you can land W after she E's it's good to go most of the time)

EbonyBladeJ881 votes

Was just giving the suggestion based on my experiences with him.

Shrek Luigi2 votes

He's above 50% WR across the board, hardly a mediocre pick.

DaNinad1 votes

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Play a certain little somebody called Yorick . Haven't lost to a Jayce yet with him.

Of course, many of the Jayce players I have destroyed with Yorick proceed to claim that he's broken, so...

Not so good when they're on the receiving end of a stomp, now is it?

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Lol i love picking yorick against jayce

Asayake 5150glow4 votes

The point is, yes he takes 50-80% of you're health, but that's it. He can't kill you (quickly). Since he's taking that much of you're health, you're either squishy (and thus do a lot of damage) or it's early game where you're weak and he's strong and there's nothing you can do. If it's the first, you pop your ult and go in. Nothing to it. He'll scare you with his damage, but truth is - it's not enough. You'll get low, but you'll kill him.

If it's the second, then just get what farm you can and be glad you avoided the poke.

Dr Dormidon1 votes

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The point is, yes he takes 50-80% of you're health, but that's it. He can't kill you (quickly). Since he's taking that much of you're health, you're either squishy (and thus do a lot of damage) or it's early game where you're weak and he's strong and there's nothing you can do. If it's the first, you pop your ult and go in. Nothing to it. He'll scare you with his damage, but truth is - it's not enough. You'll get low, but you'll kill him.

If it's the second, then just get what farm you can and be glad you avoided the poke.

Rofl. This game isnt about killing your opponent. He just force you to go back again and again dealing 80% of ur max hp every single damn "trade" (i cant even call this shit trade cause she simply jumps on your every time he gets in range)

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Rofl. This game isnt about killing your opponent. He just force you to go back again and again dealing 80% of ur max hp every single damn "trade" (i cant even call this shit trade cause she simply jumps on your every time he gets in range)

Don't let him trade with you is key. His trade is equivalent to an all in, so if he ever trades with you, you have ult, and he doesn't kill you, turn around, and kill him.

legionnaire994 votes

The melee thing has always been there

Lil Lewd Witch2 votes

He's a poke/all in specialist. He's far from safe. His knock back is very minor and speed boosts aren't really anything so substantial to save him from being jumped on. If you sit back and b Jayce's abuse, ofc he's going to rail you because that is his job. "Best defense is a good offense" fits all too well when it comes to defeating Jayce.

A Bad Nasus1 votes

The risk is that he can outplay himself

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