How to reasonably Weaken Tank Ekko while keeping AP Ekko Relevant

Igotlazy·May 11, 2016·3 votes·820 views

I think an interesting change could be to increase the on-target cooldown of his Passive from the current 3 seconds, to maybe 3.5 or even 4 seconds.

Why this will work: -Tank Ekko relies off of the stickiness provided by the Passive and Q (and Iceborn) to stay on Enemies. Over a long period of time (and multiple procs of the Passive), he eventually gets the kill. -AP Ekko relies off of that same stickiness but is able to potentially kill his target incredibly quickly, decreasing the need for further procs (since they're dead).

Result: Increasing the on-target cooldown will weaken Tank Ekko since he requires many Passive procs, but will keep AP Ekko relatively the same since he doesn't need more than one or two.

-From an Ekko main with ~200k Mastery Points on him.

14 Comments

HyperiönMay 11, 20162 votes

The only way to take out tank Ekko is to remove his passive. And the massive speed from his Ult. Only way it will ever nerf him, but Riot won't do that. Ekko isn't hard to play against either

IgotlazyMay 11, 20161 votes

His Ult doesn't give him movement speed (unless it procs his Passive). Removing the passive though is ridiculous. So much of his power budget is in that one part of his kit.

HyperiönMay 11, 20161 votes

Not completely removed, just nerfed.

SaltyKrackaMay 11, 20161 votes

Or they could just nerf the shit out of his passive's base damage (maybe give it an increase against minions to help him farm better early) and increase its AP ratio.

JavelinJoeMay 11, 20161 votes

Stop spamming this. it is the third time you posted the exact same post

IgotlazyMay 11, 20161 votes

Decided to try one last time two days later. I just felt that the other times the post quickly fell out of view before a decent discussion could start up. If nothing happens this time around, I'll probably just let it die.

JavelinJoeMay 11, 20161 votes

dont get me wrong it is a nice idea, but there may not be much room to discuss. Personally, I still think some of his ratios need work, or maybe a separate scaling like with armor or mr.

IgotlazyMay 11, 20161 votes

Scaling with Armor and MR would probably only help Tank Ekko anyway since he builds primarily those types of items. What would AP build to take from that? Abyssal, maybe a Zhonyas? Unless you mean some type of inverse scaling... which would be weird.

JavelinJoeMay 11, 20161 votes

No like his shield would scale defense while his QE would scale AP. his ult could scale both

IgotlazyMay 11, 20161 votes

Eeeeh I don't know. Tank Ekko would already have a pretty big health pool, probably don't want to make it even better with a Resistance scaling shield. Plus there's isn't really any thematic reason to scale off of Armor and MR.

JavelinJoeMay 11, 20161 votes

True there is not much of a theme, so maybe AD scaling somewhere since he is melee based while lowering his AP. Since no items have both armor and AD, it would be a step in the right direction maybe.

Kledy McKledFaceMay 11, 20161 votes

half his w stun duration, increase his passive cd by 15 seconds and delete sunfire... there you have your assassin style ekko an tank ekko becomes irrelevant

IgotlazyMay 11, 20161 votes

A 15 second on-target cooldown.... that's pretty disgusting not going to lie, even Braum has only 8 seconds at early levels. Halving the stun duration would put it at 1.125 seconds, so that's basically 1 second. You know, we still want Utility in our Utility Assassin, we just want to get rid of the Tank thing.

IgotlazyMay 21, 20161 votes

Hey look they're trying it.

5/20/16 PBE Patch

Ekko: **Z-Drive Resonance (Passive) ** Lock out on same target increased to 6 seconds from 3 seconds.

A bit extreme but I like it.