So I just visited champion.gg...

Telenus·May 7, 2016·3 votes·723 views

...and whos the best jungler? MALZAHAR,.................................MALZAHAR????????? wtf did i miss something I thought he is a MIDlaner????

11 Comments

ZeeWolfZMay 7, 20162 votes

Solos new dragons at lvl 2. Solos new Herald as soon as he spawns. Solos Baron at lvl 13.

Because Riot has no fuckin clue what they are doing anymore.

SpoofghoulMay 7, 20162 votes

fyi malz could do all that pre rework

ßurstMay 7, 20161 votes

Yea but before he had to go AD to be able to solo it now he just goes ap and solo's it easily

ParoeMay 7, 20162 votes

Malzahar became an extrmely safe objective focused jungler in the same patch as jungle objectives became extremely powerful. the current fotm for malzahar and the knee-jerk super nerfs hes received since his rework, which itself was a staggering nerf, is a product of a near-perfect enviornment in which malzahar was put into.

What people dont realize;

Malzahar has enabler ganks. He has very little burst at all points in the game, and relies on allies to actually burst and/or kill enemies for ganks.
Malzahars voidlings have very low damage output unless stacked, and are very easily destroyed with a single spellblade proc or AoE ability.
Malzahars passive can be popped easily, and if you want him dead it means (just like with LOTS of other champions) you need to commit after you pop it.
AP items in general were nerfed. the maximum amount of AP obtainable while maintaining an optimal build has dropped greatly this season.

ArkaleMay 8, 20161 votes

Watch out you might get down-voted for being logical without exaggerating his jungle power.

Then again I'm sure the extremely vocal community of league players who never played new malz are right about how overpowered he is, and that he needs to be nerfed in mid and jungle.

P.S. For those who would point this out, I am an extremely biased malzahar main. :)

deadlychuckMay 8, 20161 votes

You're right the only reason malzahar is viewed to be as powerful as he is after the rework is because people are over exaggerating his jungle power. Yes it's over tuned. Although outside of that he's just a worse champion all around. He feels less reliable, less interactive, and in the end just not as much fun.

I'm a (now former) malzahar main, and i'd play him a ton as AD and AP, but this rework feels like a slap in the face to the old malzahar, for no apparent reason. The scale of the rework is on that of the karma rework. He plays nothing like his former self, and the AD and AP play styles were homogenized so that now they feel identical to play. It feels like he (as well as a few other mages) was reworked, by people who had hardly even played him enough to know what made him fun to play. Then simplified the play styles that he knew people did enjoy into a single kit.

SpoofghoulMay 7, 20161 votes

ad malz has always been a strong jungler

now you can do it building ap too

i cleared camps faster with former ad malz as i could actually direct my voidlings and could clear 2/3 camps at the same time go and beat that clearspeed m8

also lvl 2/3 drakes because i could etc etc

nothing much has changed except now hes slower but he can build ap, and his ganks are worse becasue he lacks burst

just an edit

malzahar is not a ''midlaner'' malzahar is a MAGE mage =/= midlaner

TelenusMay 8, 20161 votes

I know ad malzh I really enjoyed him but ad malz was never competitive

yeah but hes supposed to be a midlaner

Bobloser3555May 7, 20161 votes

Cassio and Swain my 2 mains pathetic with the lowest winrate of the game

deadlychuckMay 8, 20161 votes

Basically riot's team decided to put all of his power into his voidlings on his W. Now because they spawn a new one every time the most recent spawned one hits monster, the minions are insanely OP in the jungle.

That said, everything other than the broken W is complete trash. Everything in his kit is now centered around the W. Although once they nerf the power of his W, he will probably be trash tier, as there is no other part of his kit worth playing around.