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ModWulf Helhammer7 votes

2.6k health isn't that much....especially considering your ADC should be hitting near 1000 damage per AA late game

Defended1 votes

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2.6k health isn't that much....especially considering your ADC should be hitting near 1000 damage per AA late game

2.6k Health isn't a lot for someone who built 1 fucking health item?

Ok.

FourVsFive1 votes

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2.6k Health isn't a lot for someone who built 1 fucking health item?

Ok.

he probly using the mastery that gives 300hp, + HP runes for another 300hp = 600?

Defended1 votes

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he probly using the mastery that gives 300hp, + HP runes for another 300hp = 600?

Probably. Point is he only grabbed 1 item. You can be tanky with just by health.. Especially from his shield

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

His shield scales with AP. And if he's using that, he's not tanky from HP alone.

You want to be tanky from HP alone? You need close to 4000 or higher, and even then it's not going so effective because of things like BoRK and Lord Dominik's

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

He has only 600 bonus health, 300 of that from a keystone that doesn't give damage or utility in exchange for just flat health, and has to be stacked.

And considering Kog'Maw has 1912 base HP at level 18, and he is one of the squishiest champs in the game, yes, 2.6k isn't a lot

Defended1 votes

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He has only 600 bonus health, 300 of that from a keystone that doesn't give damage or utility in exchange for just flat health, and has to be stacked.

And considering Kog'Maw has 1912 base HP at level 18, and he is one of the squishiest champs in the game, yes, 2.6k isn't a lot

Where is your proof Kogmaw = squishiest champ in the game? Show me proof because i will show you a list that has him not even close to #1. Also 1.9k health is not for every ADC. Only kog

Love that shitty example though.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

I said one of the squishiest.

I took a late game hyper carry, with no mobility, and one that has an entire team comp named after him (that is just supposed to keep him alive), and the squishiest class (on average) in the game.

Psyturkey1 votes

He didn't say Kog'maw is the squishiest in the game, he said "one of the squishiest". You literally quoted him.

For that matter, Kog'maw is not an especially durable champion - while their may be others who are squishier (looking at you Anivia), it's not unfair to label Kog as especially squishy.

Dreadlocks3 votes

2.6k isnt a lot of HP at all.. You prob thought he had a lot of health because he had 494 AP and so when he uses turtle its going to look pretty big.

Defended1 votes

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2.6k isnt a lot of HP at all.. You prob thought he had a lot of health because he had 494 AP and so when he uses turtle its going to look pretty big.

That turtle is exactly what happened... Way too big

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

base HP at level 16 for most adcs is like 1700-1800. building defensive masteries and an HP item isn't that unreasonable to see a bruiser get 800 more HP. Note there are no resistances to that build so he will still melt pretty damn fast.

Defended1 votes

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base HP at level 16 for most adcs is like 1700-1800. building defensive masteries and an HP item isn't that unreasonable to see a bruiser get 800 more HP. Note there are no resistances to that build so he will still melt pretty damn fast.

Yeah but his turtle stance was pretty crazy.. The low cd and huge shield..

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

then that's his shield and that has very little to do with his HP or the availability of HP in the game.

EWBS Mithilesh1 votes

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2.6k health isn't that much....especially considering your ADC should be hitting near 1000 damage per AA late game

also ADC has usually 2000 health lvl 18 so yeah 800 health more is nothing

Chuck Charles2 votes

2.6k health seems like a lot. but its not effective health. you only have an ohmwrecker. you are going to effectively explode. this only works to make you tanky when you are way ahead. at which point you can literally build anything and it doenst matter because you are that far ahead.

I mean the other day I played on a bronze 3 smurf and I was so far ahead I built a banshees and maw on lucian because enemy leblanc was fed. i had around 2.4k health and around 120 MR on an adc. i still got one shot if there was more than just Leblanc there.

i think people overcomplain about people being "tanky". no. they are not tanky. they can just survive burst and aren't glass cannon. having high health does not make you tanky. it means you won't explode from one ability. you will still explode if focused at all. high health, high resistances and paired with some form of sustain/dmg reduction ability in a team fight is what makes someone tanky. think ekko with ult, maokai with ult, rammus with W, etc.

Neo Metalsonic2 votes

6 items only 2.6k HP ZERO MAGIC RESISTANCE (meaning almost any APC at this point can oneshot him or force him out of the fight). Also 134 armor is very low, it means your ADC will be hitting him for like 500 on average meaning he dies in 3 seconds within ADC range.

sit kid1 votes

Udyr at level 16 has 2026 health

SoA mastery gives 300 leaving him at 2326

that means you have 301 from items, runes or other masteries

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