solution to surrender spams

Inkling Commando··1 votes·1,622 views

we've all seen this, a player wants to give up and tries to surrender and it fails. no big deal right? but then a few minutes later will try again. again it fails. they will try again and it fails a third time. by now it is getting annoying. why won't they just accept the fact the team will not surrender and stop with the ff spams? well there is a way to fix this. each player on the team can only call a surrender vote once. and if it fails they cannot call it again the rest of the game. but they can still vote if others call it. if every player used their surrender call and it failed all 5 times then they will have the choice of either playing the game or using the exit button to leave. as of right now as is a player can spam surrender with no form of punishment. and because they know this they will spam surrender non stop until it goes through. while it could be reported as Grieving and Giving up i doubt they will be punished for it. so by limiting the times they can call it it will reduce spam and it will encourage the player to try harder at the game to avoid any punishment from other options such as inting or exiting. but that does not mean players won't int or exit instead of trying harder but that their choice. the options are just there.

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Jamaree4 votes

God no, fuck this idea, then are are always gonna have that one dude who says no to a game that is 0 to 20 just to hold people hostage.

Inkling Commando1 votes

that's why the other 4 dont use their ff call after the 15 minute mark lol. shows how much you love to spam ff. if one person held their ff call till after 20 minute mark when you only need 4 to go through then the 4 who do want to ff can say yes and it goes through.

Jamaree2 votes

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that's why the other 4 dont use their ff call after the 15 minute mark lol. shows how much you love to spam ff. if one person held their ff call till after 20 minute mark when you only need 4 to go through then the 4 who do want to ff can say yes and it goes through.

Ok then the other three do the same and are held hostage for an extra 6 minutes as the surrenders rotate, god forbid if it is a duo instead.

I only spam surrender if the game is clearly unwinnable, like no lanes winning, inhib taken, rift taken, all dragons taken etc, and before you say you have comeback from games like that, I ask, is that the majority because I can bet you when a game is that far behind, you have lost more of those then you won.

Inkling Commando1 votes

Ok then the other three do the same and are held hostage for an extra 6 minutes as the surrenders rotate,

you can sit around for an extra 6 minutes if you knew that you would get a guarantee leave at 21 minutes, assuming 3 others agree to a surrender as well. by the way, you only hold yourself hostage but i won't open that can of beans.

I only spam surrender if the game is clearly unwinnable,

you mean if you assume it is unwinnable. you clearly don't believe in comebacks and don't care about others who do believe in comebacks.

I can bet you when a game is that far behind, you have lost more of those then you won.

you're one of those people who can't handle losing in a game. and since that is the case i will not dance with you any more. since i bet $100 you do not give a fuck on what i am saying.

Jamaree2 votes

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you can sit around for an extra 6 minutes if you knew that you would get a guarantee leave at 21 minutes, assuming 3 others agree to a surrender as well. by the way, you only hold yourself hostage but i won't open that can of beans.

And risk getting punished? No thank you.

you mean if you assume it is unwinnable. you clearly don't believe in comebacks and don't care about others who do believe in comebacks.

I'm playing to the odds. I have been wrong about saying games are over then us coming back, but again, that is uncommon, I can safely say around 90% of the times I have wanted early surrenders because it looked like we were gonna lose, but didn't, we did lose. I don't play for the 10%, and where is my respect for not wanting to be held in a clearly lost game?

you're one of those people who can't handle losing in a game. and since that is the case i will not dance with you any more. since i bet $100 you do not give a fuck on what i am saying.

I can handle loss just fine, I just don't like it begin dragged out, which is why I'm an advocate for early surrender. I don't flame people who do poorly nor get pissed (at least verbally) at the person saying no to the surrender, but I don't like playing games that are lost, if you do, more power to you, I personally don't.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

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we've all seen this, a player wants to give up and tries to surrender and it fails. no big deal right? but then a few minutes later will try again. again it fails. they will try again and it fails a third time. by now it is getting annoying. why won't they just accept the fact the team will not surrender and stop with the ff spams? well there is a way to fix this. each player on the team can only call a surrender vote once. and if it fails they cannot call it again the rest of the game. but they can still vote if others call it. if every player used their surrender call and it failed all 5 times then they will have the choice of either playing the game or using the exit button to leave. as of right now as is a player can spam surrender with no form of punishment. and because they know this they will spam surrender non stop until it goes through. while it could be reported as Grieving and Giving up i doubt they will be punished for it. so by limiting the times they can call it it will reduce spam and it will encourage the player to try harder at the game to avoid any punishment from other options such as inting or exiting. but that does not mean players won't int or exit instead of trying harder but that their choice. the options are just there.

Or...just click No? Spammed surrender votes is honestly not that annoying.

Inkling Commando1 votes

you've obviously never had spammed surrenders cause you always vote yes or get outvoted by the others.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

I mean it's not like the Surrender vote covers the whole screen or anything.

Inkling Commando1 votes

but just like with every other spam, it gets annoying does it not?

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Does it make a sound like ping spams? No. Does it cover the whole screen like the Option screen? No. Does I have to vote whenever it pops up? Not necessary.

So all in all, I guess the only annoyed one here is just you.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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you've obviously never had spammed surrenders cause you always vote yes or get outvoted by the others.

If you do not agree with me, you never experienced it.

QQ emo kid.

Some people arent annoyed.

Vordo1 votes

What about the player who spams the FF? What is he going through? What happened to his game to make him behave this way? Was he camped? Did he give first blood and people started harassing him? Is he enjoying his time spent with those 4 people? Is he just bad? Did he get ANY help? How come we can't ask/answer these questions? Did anyone try to talk to him, calm him down and help out or suggest he come help so he could get fed? If he is the midlaner and is behind, when the support and adc come mid, are they allowing him to farm to gain some advantage or are they just taking the farm, leaving and pushing his lane and not helping when the enemy team responds and 4man deathball the midlaner? Just, you know... normal questions, i think.

Inkling Commando1 votes

do you really think players have enough common sense to ask such questions? no. they are all "oh report our warwick, he's feeding" "you suck zed" "you didn't help me so i won't help you" etc etc. but all ff spamming does is make them look like an asshole by forcing others to leave the game all because they is having a bad game while the others are doing fine. plus some players dislike surrendering and when the surrender vote keeps happening by the same guy they tend to get a little bit pissed and may end up playing worse. so by limiting it to only one ff call per player it would reduce grieving and add a penalty to those who spam it and refuse to accept no.

Demacıan Justıce1 votes

I mean I get annoyed sometimes over games that aren't over, but I'm never annoyed to the point where I would ever propose something like what you're saying. Lol.

Like Jellibeanman(Jamaree) said above, I don't typically spam the ff unless I know the game is over even though albeit I've been wrong from time to time. I'd say about 5% of the time I'm wrong and we come back and win, but the rest of the time we lose and it was just a waste of time. Lol.

Inkling Commando1 votes

but you still spam. showing you don't give a fuck about the other players and just want to leave the game.

COCONUTSTRAW19971 votes

not all games can be won. And if i'm forced to stay in a lost game for an extra 20 mins i'm tilting of the face of the earth

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