How do you climb/carry elo?

Cosmochris··1 votes·846 views

3-4 AFKs in a row, 1 who rage quitted after failing to gank at lvl 3, inting players, 0/7 at 10 minutes, afk jglers who do not take smite, the player that never groups, how do you carry these games? I really want to know how other people do it. Is it purely luck?

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Randomonium3 votes

Some games you can't carry. Its not a matter of luck, its actually the opposite. You need to play enough games so that luck is no longer a factor. If you only play 50 or so games a season its very easy to get "unlucky." However, if you play 500 games a season its pretty much statistically impossible. When you play a large number of games the number of times you have a monkey on your team and the number of times the enemy team has a monkey will even out and all you'll be left with are the games where the teams are evenly matched. Those are the games that really determine whether or not you climb. Lose all of those games and you'll have a 40% win ratio. Win all of them and you'll have a 60% win ratio.

You have to remember that crazy high win rates are pretty much impossible so the margin you are playing with is small. Therefore, in order to actually climb you need to have a LOT of games. Casinos operate under the same principle. Las Vegas has to pay out 97% of what they earn in winnings. If they only have people gamble $10,000 a year then they would only make $300 a year. But when people do $1 trillion in gambling a year suddenly the house makes a clean $30 billion. The key to climbing is not being the gambler, its being the house.

Cosmochris1 votes

Thanks kinda makes sense when you explain it. Hella tilted with the nonstop losses atm :/

Randomonium3 votes

I like to break down games into 5 types:

Type 5: 20% of the time the enemy team is way better than your team (this includes games with feeders/trolls on your team.) These games are pretty much automatic losses.

Type 4: 20% of the time the enemy team is, on average, better than your team. In these games the only way you win is if you absolutely hard carry the game (i.e. high cs, high KDA, high kill participation, high number of objectives destroyed.)

Type 3: 20% of the time the teams are evenly matched. Whether or not you win these games is dependent upon whether you play better or worse than the average person at your elo.

Type 2: 20% of the time your team is, on average, better than the enemy team. In these games you just have to play smart and you'll win (i.e. not suicide, flame your team, throw at baron, etc.)

Type 1: 20% of the time your team is way better than the enemy team (this includes games with feeders/troll on the enemy team.) These games are pretty much automatic wins as long as you don't troll/afk.

If you win all of your Type 1 and Type 2 games that puts you automatically at a 40% win rate. Next, if you win the majority of your Type 3 games that will put you above a 50% win rate and you will climb. The reason why so many people have difficulty climbing is they go on tilt after losing a Type 4 or Type 5 game and they carry that anger into subsequent games, play worse than normal, and lose a Type 1, Type 2, or Type 3 game that they could have won had they not been on tilt.

Cosmochris1 votes

Yeah this pretty much describes league but sadly I have mostly Type 4,5. Either way I'll just keep playing and try not to get as tilted. Thanks for helping a bro out tho made me less tilted LOL.

Armored Yokai1 votes

Match maker is unfair at times but you can always take strong champions and carry i got out of bronze 5 to silver 5 within 1 week

Cosmochris1 votes

yeah sometimes works but im in gold so its impossible to do so even with broken champs :/

Nosnide1 votes

Sounds like Bronze to me. If so, carrying bronze is completely different.

Don't trust anyone will do anything right. Don't let their mistakes bother you in the slightest, or you will tilt. Don't play late game champions, because your team won't stall out. You need to take lead on objectives (make the right calls too naturally). Roam as much as possible to get yourself fed, and secure objectives. Take every kill (unless you're the support), because you will do more with the gold. Capitalize on enemy mistakes, because they make many. Reassure your team you will carry, when they start to spam gg at 10 minutes.

Very important: (will prevent you from tilting) Expect to lose a good portion of your matches simply because your team will be bad. Learn to laugh at your team's and your own mistakes. Its just a game. ~Also at how OP some of your enemies might seem. its all situational.

Xevestos1 votes

Just get better and play a lot.

That's all there is to it, diamonds can carry out of gold pretty quickly but if u are just a bit better then everyone else it needs a lot of games.

Cosmochris1 votes

I mean tbh I dont really think im the problem. Every game I win lane and sometimes get first turret. I even help out other lanes get kills but cant carry afks or inting player....

SwordOfWar1 votes

Get a buddy and do solo / duo queue. That way you know 2/5 of your team at least wont be afk or inting.

Cosmochris1 votes

I have no friends :(

SwordOfWar1 votes

Just add random people and ask them to play :D

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