personally the reworks make me nervous there trying so hard to force adcs out of the bot lane and other champs in the graves changes i really really dont like and blind removal from quinn is also meh but the item changes look amazing especially the phantom dancer and scimitar changes
your thoughts?
Amelie3 votesAs a Caitlyn main, nervous. I feel like she's gonna be even more outclassed than before, especially since they said they want her to be not as good at killing tanks. Wut. Also, 90 second duration traps. Sucks. Quinn and Jinx (and maybe Vayne/Trist) players will feel some pain, too.
As for the other ADCs, they're most likely gonna be insane, especially with Essence Reaver being core on a bunch of them. Ezreal, Graves, and Lucian are probably gonna be incredibly strong with this item. And late game Kog is probably nightmare-ish.
JAGMAG1 votesyeah i haven't really read what all they have done to cait but taking away her tank killing power? really? i hope they at least giver her some mid game power and more lane bully in exchange for those nerfs
Rebonack2 votesKoggy main as of his first free week here.
I'm absolutely horrified that this W remake is going to push TanKoggy (BotRK into Wit's, follow up with balls to the walls tank gear) over the top. It was already pretty decent since it mitigates his main weaknesses in exchange for a bit lower DPS. But effectively doubling its damage output is going to be silly.
I'm seriously hoping that Riot is going to drop the base damage on his W and give it a heftier AP ratio (and a bonus AD ratio) because otherwise Juggermaw is going to be unstoppable.
Unlucky Number71 votesexited. i won't be able to bring all of them to bot lane but i'm looking forward to relearning their nuances.
JAGMAG1 votesim the opposite XD i just learned ashe and trist and now there getting nerfed and cait who i quit maiming because of her mid game power drop is getting changed to so i cant fall back on that thou im excited to try the new items on ezreal and lucian
Posui Gart1 votesI played Ezreal, Ashe and Tristana. Ezreal was nerfed, Ashe was nerfed, Tristana was nerfed. Looks like its just bad luck
Beuhlakor5 votes[{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Go53t1GE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-10-29T16:21:04.037+0000)
I played Ezreal, Ashe and Tristana. Ezreal was nerfed, Ashe was nerfed, Tristana was nerfed. Looks like its just bad luck
Ezreal is buffed HARD through items and masteries.
With masteries you can get 45% CDR (yes, cap is increased through masteries to 45%). Your Q now reduces your CDs by 1.5 sec instead of 1.
Essence Reaver gives you now 20% crit chances, 10% CDR and you can get another 20% CDR by building any other item that gives you 20% crit chances.
Thing is, Trinity now gives 20% crit chances AND 10% CDR. By going Trinity + ER you now have 40% CDR and 40% crit chances.
Now you have 45% CDR and 40% crit chances. You can hard spam your Q and E with almost no CD on them with only 2 items and be uncatchable.
BT no longer has "UNIQUE PASSIVE" for its lifesteal. If the ennemy team has no tank, you can go crazy and build double BTs for 40% lifesteal and heavy damages on your AA and Q and E. You are almost unkillable, uncatchable and deal tons of damages.
I don't see Ez being nerfed at all.
Earl Eulrich1 votesI don't see Ez being nerfed at all.
you will be seeing him nerfed hard though once this is tested in live play...
Beuhlakor1 votes[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Go53t1GE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-10-29T16:41:47.077+0000)
you will be seeing him nerfed hard though once this is tested in live play...
Agreed :D
JAGMAG2 votesmaybe just maybe they will ignore it for like 6 months
JAGMAG2 votesthis sounds amazing tbh ad ez has been super weak for a long time now thsi sounds like it will bring him back
Bodya231 votesI loved kog for what he did pre rework, and i cant wait to try 5 attack speed. I also feel like botlane will feel a lot more diverse. Also really excited for the new mf stuff. I just wish lucian had gotten more buffs :(
JAGMAG1 voteshes secretly buffed threw items look at the new essence reaver and masteries he will become a ad caster with high mobility
Critmaster Garen1 votesnot an adc, but ill still use some of those items lol.
and so will these guys. 
still excited?
JAGMAG1 votestrynd and yi dont scare me also i would however like to see randuins passive get a buff maybe to 20% that would hurt all three of them pretty bad
ProfDrDeath1 votesTo answer your question: Yes.
Quinn changes look...interesting is probably the right word. Itemisation could possibly be broken on oh so many levels (A critting Runaan's for Jinx? Fml). In the same vein, finding out what works with what on which champion is gonna be hella fun. Caitlyn might become even more obnoxious.
JAGMAG1 votesXD you are worried about jinx think about the fact now it makes sense for kalstia to actually build crit chance instead of stacking life steal and now life steal on schimitar so she can still run double life steal have 3 attack speed iteams and has room for a ie and pd
Faded Lich1 votessuper excited xD
MLDzXnRRR1 votesI think that Graves is gonne be the new UrgoD
JAGMAG1 votesas in hes actually good but no one plays him because hes not fun/precived as bad?
Pika3101 votesI see a lot of nerfs. I see a lot of OP junk.
This is just typical Rito practice of trying to break the game and showing clear favoritism towards specific #LC$BIGPLAY$ champions. Until Rito actually starts giving a shit about real balance, I can't be excited about anything.
Daedalus8711 votesI don't really main anything, but Quinn and Graves are in my top 3 Champion Mastery. I like the look of the Graves changes. I probably will play Quinn once, then never again, because of the ult loss.
And I'd say the item changes would break the class, but there are significant AD losses.
Awfully Beast1 votesSuper excited, the few champion updates are mehh, but the item changes are just wow. NOT JUST FOR ADC's either. Any champ can use any item in the game and I do believe with these overhaul with ad items (like they did with ap items) will bring so much more diversity to all stages and champs in the game, that's not including the new masteries. I am afraid that this game might not be anything like LoL of old as I played all the way back in season 1 and 2. But I think riot is moving on to bigger and better. And I think that's whats giving most people trouble with these changes. As each year this game does become different then it was from the last. I have faith though.
A Miss Fortune1 votesAs a Miss Fortune main I'm really excited for the changes, her new primary passive looks fun to play with and her ult being able to crit is insane since most MF players already build at least 55% crit chance.
IMMENSE COURAGE1 votesI really dislike the Ashe changes. They look pretty bad, overall. I don't want to lose control over when my powerful slow procs and have it attached to RNG -- that's bad and will hurt her survivability in dangerous situations immensely. Being able to pop my Q before it was stacked if I needed to was fun and well designed - I gain a more powerful slow but am throwing away my big steroid for several seconds. I just can't help but feel like the Ashe changes were completely un-needed and removed options and gameplay instead of adding more.
Chief Mayonnaise1 votesI'm trying to make new builds for my adc's.
Also for anybody out there.
Warlord's Bloodlust or Fervor of Battle on Jinx?
AOE crit 15% Lifesteal is nice and the AS is good too.
BUT DAT POTENTIAL 80 AD