Are We Just Pretending Graves isn't Still OP?

passıon·Jul 30, 2016·2 votes·625 views

Graves is still too strong, but now he's underplayed (at least in my games).

But he can still carry hard, by being unkillable while having too much burst.

5 Comments

RivuoJul 30, 20162 votes

i really hate fighting graves. He punishes you for getting close even tho melee champs are trying to get close...

Handy Sandy Jul 30, 20161 votes

You just don't know how, or when, to fight him. Every champ is "op" when used right.

passıonJul 30, 20162 votes

Yeah Graves isn't op when he's diving with red + his insane burst + steraks. Oh, he didn't even die? Well he just played it right.

Handy Sandy Jul 30, 20161 votes

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Yeah Graves isn't op when he's diving with red + his insane burst + steraks. Oh, he didn't even die? Well he just played it right.

If he's nefed, they might as well nerf AurelionSol Cassiopeia Irelia Illaoi Garen Fizz Lux Leblanc LeeSin Rengar Of course he just played it right. He used items to make him have less weaknesses. If he was truly OP, then riot would have fixed it in a matter of days. There's clearly a reason why Riot hasn't nerfed him yet, he's short range for ad, most skills are skillshots which can be dodged, and some other things I probably don't know. Due to his short range he can be poked down. Some type of way to escape or stun/knockback will be useful when fighting him. Attack him once one or more skills of his are on cooldown. Tons of champions have insane burst and dive at the same time. If you think graves is that op, look at tank veigar Veigar or xerath's Xerath poke power, he can poke you down and when you retreat under your turret he can use his ult. What about nidalee's Nidalee spear and brand's super op burst damage along with his passive. Lux's Lux combo is OP also, let's nerf them all? Read this http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/jLGvQ3Wk-before-you-make-a-post-about-balance

Who knows, you could've been up against someone who really knows what they're doing. When you're up against someone like that, it may seem like that champ is OP, but it really, really isn't.