New shen sucks in my opinion. Riot forced him to have to build only tank to even do well. no more devourer on-hit shen, or even triforce shen.
It fucking blows, whats up with riot reworking carry based champs 
into utility based full tanks, who can hardly carry a bronze 5 game? While also completely destroying any chance of a off build working? Makes me wonder what they will do to warwick...
BadmoonBC4 voteslol wut? Shen almost always built full tank. And even on the off chance you would see a triforce Shen it was super rare. Don't get your panties in a bunch
9kPluzZ1 votesI mained devourer-on hit shen with 2-3 defensive defensive items and it worked great. Got a couple pentas with it. Now with the passive/sustain changes that build is pretty much dead.
Ralanr4 votesFiora? A utility based tank?
I'm at a loss for words.
DeathBurst1 votesActually when I saw Fiora in that list, I wondered if that thread was just a troll-bait...
KrugLyfe3 votesWait wait wait why is fiora there? And sion is in a great place right now he bursts squishies and brings massive CC to the table.
Mecha MaIphite3 votes"sion"
"carry"
maybe if you're against people who don't know how to sidestep
9kPluzZ1 votesyou new? before the rework sion was a decent carry pubstomper like tryn/yi who could be ap/ad . but then they just reworked him into a binary full tank and thats all he can do now. Thats what happened to shen and poppy now also.
DeathBurst1 votesHe was talking pre-rework Sion.
MagicDragon3003 votes"Fiora is a utility based full tank"
Because I see tanks build Black Cleaver and Ravenous Hydra 24/7. All with relying on their "utility" to one shot squishies if fed.
coeurloyal1 votesI think you're confused, friend. Only one of those champions was ever considered a carry, and she's better at it now than she was previously. Or rather, she's performing better on a consistent basis than she was previously. I wouldn't call Poppy full tank, either. She performs best as an off-tank and has rather good base damage values. She's an extremely well-rounded champ now.
Besides, I like new Shen. it plays well, his combos make a lot of sense, you have to actually pay attention to your positioning, and there's a decent mastery curve now (in the fact that one actually exists). He's even pretty fun to play in the jungle. JG Shen isn't that strong, but he gets free counter-ganks post 6 and has good target lockdown with an IBG. I would even argue that he itemizes damage better now than he did previously.
Catastrop1 votes
