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Thoughts on Udyr: Is he unhealthy?

Jhaerik·3/31/2016, 4:45:57 AM·1 votes·642 views

More of a discussion opener than a fully thought out opinion here. What do you guys think?

My feeling is that he isn't and is seeing constant tweaking, due to how hard it is to budget mobility and short CD stuns. Here are a few ideas of my own (again not a lot of thought put into these.)

Rework Udyr into a 3 stance champion with an actual Ultimate. Have the Ultimate empower the next stance he uses for a brief time. One stance for Damage, one for Tank and one for Mobility(engage/escape).
Convert one of his current stances into his Ultimate in an empowered form. Transfer his CC potential to be tied to his Ultimate.
Give him a (totem) item similar to Victor's upgrades that Empowers once of his stances. Only the upgraded Bear Totem would have the Stun, Empowered Turtle more tankiness, ect. Each fully upgraded Totem could have an active effect of some kind that embodies his totem animal. This would make him more focused and easier to balance through counters.

5 Comments

Flying Buntcake3/31/2016, 4:59:35 AM2 votes

I think he's strong gets against certain people, yet really weak to others. My problem is when he gets unkillably tanky combined with that high mobility cc. I'd also point out that because he doesn't really have an ult, his only big feel good moments are kills, compared to someone who's ult changes the fight dramatically like vi or yi.

CoolKnightST3/31/2016, 5:18:29 AM1 votes

I think the issue with him right now is his scaling. He kinda fits the juggernaut theme but in realitiy is kinda hard to tell if that's really the case since he performs better in disengage than engage. He's also way to mobile to be a juggernaut.

I think the solution for him is to great a large gap in his stances and possiblity adjust the scaling that brings it with. This might be a strange suggestion. But how about changing all his AP scaling to AD scaling (still with magic damage offcourse). This would limit his build option but it would be a lot easyer to ballance out his stances. It won't really ruin his since their are only a fell untraditional builds where he would actualy use AP.

ChaddyFantome3/31/2016, 5:48:14 AM1 votes

Udyr has always been fine or meh imo. Im speaking based on having played against Udyr moreso thna having played him since Im not even an Udyr player. All the hate seems to be rust the LoL communities kneejerk reaction and claiming any fad is broken by virtue of it being different, and Riot complying like a father that spoils his daughter.

Jhaerik4/1/2016, 5:52:36 PM1 votes

I think my biggest issue is currently he has to be rebalanced every other patch. Something about his kit needs reworked to prevent this. Udyr is like the canary in the cage at the moment. Slightest change to any item he can build takes him over the edge one way or another.