Does lux have a hard counter?

z63XnLCMwX·Dec 18, 2015·1 votes·2,238 views

Unless you're xerath, laning phase against her just feels so oppressive. I think she's balanced in term of Meta-wise but it doesn't stop it from making laning unfun. If only mana cost was actually relevant...

24 Comments

WalkingInACircleDec 18, 20153 votes

Zed, Yasuo, Talon, Cho'gath, etc.

SleepyLionCubDec 18, 20153 votes

Any assassin, about 6 of the mages, and about 70% of all the tanks in the game.

RogueWillDec 18, 20152 votes

Do I smell sarcasm?

alasarcherDec 18, 20152 votes

I had no issues vs her as Morgana, Brand. Galio should also do fine. Orianna, Diana, Leblanc, Talon, Syndra.

CavemanteroDec 18, 20151 votes

Not used in competitive due to team fight handcuffs...learn to play defensive and get boat loads of magic resist and you should be fine I would think.

Juggernaut628Dec 18, 20151 votes

I've beaten Lux on both Fizz and Lulu believe it or not. I do agree though that her laning phase is very oppressive with her E being so easy to land for how much base damage it does. Just sidestep her Q and then proceed to face roll. She is still squishy so as long as you bait her W, she can die fast.

LadyRenlyDec 18, 20151 votes

people who don't mind buying banshees

ForgiveColourDec 18, 20151 votes

her e is impossible to dodge if she gets into her range to throw it

VesarixxDec 18, 20151 votes

Ahri does really well against her

There's also Galio, who does well vs any AP mid.

Summonerrr 1Dec 18, 20151 votes

Yasuo and Ahri do well. Ahri because of her mobility and sustain from passive and Yasuo mainly because the rules of laning don't apply to him the same way as other mids which means he always ends up having an easier lane on average...

StoningtonDec 18, 20151 votes

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and do well. Ahri because of her mobility and sustain from passive and Yasuo mainly because the rules of laning don't apply to him the same way as other mids which means he always ends up having an easier lane on average...

Yasuo is actually pretty good. His wind wall really screws over Lux's farming. I don't really think Lux is oppressive though.

shyvDec 18, 20151 votes

she's super squishy and her full burst is hard to land, so any really mobile champs. zed leblanc and ahri would probably do it. don't get hit by her q and she won't be able to land her combo.

StoningtonDec 18, 20151 votes

LeBlanc is terrible. When she dashes forward Lux just snares her and she's dead. Zed is also shit because of guaranteed snare and he gets out scaled very quickly.

shyvDec 18, 20151 votes

i said that with the assumption that op isn't a complete idiot and knows how to play any of those champs

StoningtonDec 18, 20151 votes

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i said that with the assumption that op isn't a complete idiot and knows how to play any of those champs

Ok, then explain how LeBlanc and Zed can counter a competent Lux player.

shyvDec 18, 20151 votes

a good leblanc is never going to w into range of lux's snare. you'd have to be completely stupid to do that with any champ. the biggest threat to leblanc laning against a lux is getting pushed into tower and missing cs because she's hard to farm under turret with. other than that, you can use her w to dodge snare and her qw combo to quickly burst lux and get back to safety with w again. it takes like half a second to pop qw combo and w again so the chance that you'll get caught is very unlikely..

zed's ult makes him untargetable and if he times it right he can miss literally everything. also zed is op as jesus and i hate laning against him lmao

StoningtonDec 18, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=trying too hard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GRxfuJG8,comment-id=00090000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-18T06:27:20.982+0000) a good leblanc is never going to w into range of lux's snare. you'd have to be completely stupid to do that

Then you say

pop qw combo and w again so the chance that you'll get caught is very unlikely..

These are dissonant ideas, right? You're saying LB can't dash into Lux then you're saying LB can dash into Lux. Any competent Lux will just snare you and then you're dead.

zed's ult makes him untargetable and if he times it right he can miss literally everything.

I specifically take Lux into Zed because she counters him really hard with shield and snare. You just don't throw out a snare until he ults.

shyvDec 18, 20151 votes

calm . down lmao i don't play zed i just know he's a god tier mid laner.

as for lb i dont think ive ever lost to a lux in lane with her. used to be easier with the silence but i make it work. i really doubt all those people were just terrible at lux. lb is hard to catch.

StoningtonDec 18, 20151 votes

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calm . down lmao i don't play zed i just know he's a god tier mid laner.

as for lb i dont think ive ever lost to a lux in lane with her. used to be easier with the silence but i make it work. i really doubt all those people were just terrible at lux. lb is hard to catch.

Actually, in silver you're probably right. Especially when the majority of NA lol population has played at 100 ping. They probably aren't able to land the snare fast enough, especially when LB's W had a faster animation. Now that it's slower and everyone has lower ping there's really no reason you can't land it.

Sona PingDec 18, 20151 votes

Counter? Anyone who does melee damage and can close distances. Outperform? Any mage who you are able to smartly trade with.

ShonjlDec 18, 20151 votes

Every single Assassin beats her, literally as soon as her Q is gone, she has nothing stopping you from destroying her ass. Its just a matter of dodging her one skill then getting close to her. But keeping her away from CS also is a quick way to beat her since she needs more than 1 AP item to waveclear with her E.

z63XnLCMwXDec 18, 20151 votes

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Every single Assassin beats her, literally as soon as her Q is gone, she has nothing stopping you from destroying her ass. Its just a matter of dodging her one skill then getting close to her. But keeping her away from CS also is a quick way to beat her since she needs more than 1 AP item to waveclear with her E.

I was forced to take Shaco against her because my mid went AFK. I couldn't do anything.

Leblancs BoobDec 18, 20151 votes

Zed Talon Yasuo destroy her

VaporeonKunDec 18, 20151 votes

Like Orianna, she has a really safe playstyle and her shield allows her to effectively trade when she's landed her passive on a target in lane. Her snare pretty much prevents you from countering in most situations and she usually clears waves fast, making her really difficult to keep up with in farm. She also has one of the safest playstyles in the game, next to Xerath and Vel'Koz. Which is why any good Lux will not let you get on her.

However, her biggest weakness is anyone that can weave in and out of her skills. Everything she has is skillshot oriented and unless she consistently lands her q on you she's no where near that difficult. She's just an early aggressive lane opponent and her playstyle is frustrating, but once you get on her she really can't do anything. Her E slow is super weak as well so that doesn't allow her to self peel as well as she could. She also has the downside of really high cooldowns. All of her abilities start with high CDs, even though her ult is known for having a low cd, the rest of her kit has much higher cds compared to other mages.

Most if not all Assassins. A lot of mages and quite a few AD Fighters and Tanks.