PSA: Each player can only have 3 stealth wards and 1 control ward out at once.

Bârd··45 votes·2,821 views

You know what that means?

It means that the support, while they DO ward more than any other role, CAN'T keep vision of the entire map.

Even if we are at ward cap, the map is still going to be dark unless you provide some vision yourself. So, stop bitching for one minute and buy a goddamn item 2055

38 Comments

AdeBug11 votes

I think the biggest mistake is to stop warding when you're behind. If you're ahead and you're taking their jg, at least 1 person will ward deep. But if your team is behind and they're taking YOUR jungle, it's like insta every1 stops warding and I'm begging every1 to ward to no avail, so there's no come back if we keep being jumped from random bushes.

JVP151 votes

The only problem is that it is very dangerous for a support (who is likely to be anywhere from 2-4 levels behind on the losing team compared to the winning team's laners) to ward your own jungle because of how easy you are to kill. A random jungler could come out at any moment from any number of fog of war places and there isn't much a support can do about it. Now how 2 people going into the jungle to ward together? Fat chance. In my ELO, it is highly unlikely a behind solo laner would give up CS just to ward with the support. I speak from experience.

Mysticman891 votes

Warding in numbers is still pretty sparsely done in my elo, and it's more me thinking 'oh hey there goes our jg to do ???, maybe I'll follow him and drop some wards' rather than actual coordination.

When things are going rough and warding gets scary, it can turn into a routine of backing for wards, firing a skillshot into the nearest brush, warding it, backing for more wards, repeating on the next furthest out brush, and so on. It's a tedious process of warding probably not so useful places just so you can safely ward more useful places, but it at least can push out your ward line slowly but surely.

PaladinNO5 votes

"Expect the spawn of dragons every 6 minutes today" ~ Forecast Janna

I haven't seen ANY of these dragons in all of my 6428 ARAM games. No wards either. :(

ImTheSideKick2 votes

wait.... not even one shyvana in all of those games? or even dragon trainer trist? wtf XD

Votable Jester3 votes

CoughAurelionSolCough

ImTheSideKick1 votes

I have not seen him in so long I kinda forgot qq

Votable Jester1 votes

That's ok I don't actually play him myself. xD Though I am considering learning him soon.

PaladinNO2 votes

I played Shyvana there myself only yesterday...but that was only half a dragon.

Yep, we lost. :'(

A Doorknob3 votes

Jg are starting to by the green item which is nice for supports. Should be advertised more. It's the most useful and the least used.

Troll for Trump3 votes

It's not the best one, unless you're Lee.

Unless you CONSTANTLY use your control wards and trinkets, the map will be dark. And you shouldn't burn trinkets, because it's always good to keep one ward on you, especially lategame.

Riot gutted vision a few seasons back.

MrHaZeYo2 votes

I buy Green smite on a lot of champs inless I absolutely feel like I need Chilling/Challenger smite.

I like to either protect my lanes or track the enemy jungler. Also like having Red trinket.

xevi1 votes

Vision is as useful as the players that use it. In bronze, you can have the whole map warded and mid laners will be surprised when the support roams mid, and when they die, they'll blame bot for not calling mia.

Luxs Destiny3 votes

It's difficult to buy a control ward when you've no inventory space, especially late game. ;/ It's ridiculous. I like to grab a control ward first back mid, second back top, first/second back support.

King LeBong3 votes

Is this uncommon knowledge or something, why is a PSA for such basic game knowledge necessary?

Dryditch1 votes

I guess from your high seat in Gold you don't know this, but Bronze is full of people who think a support can somehow ward the entire map.

Sure we can keep a quadrant of the map warded if we're backing to refill sightstone, but beyond that we do need help. Honestly, if everyone's dropping their trinket wards on CD, we can keep half the map fully warded at all times.

King LeBong1 votes

Seeing as how you took the time to look up my account, you would also realize I have roughly 30 games played on this account(or somewhere around that). I'm not a gold player so you can keep that out of your conversation, there was no reason to even put that in the comment.

I would like to point out that the entire map doesn't have to be warded, only important areas in certain points of the game need to be controlled, so while the support can't do every bit of warding they can control enough for their team to heavily benefit from it.

My question still stands though, how is not common knowledge that everyone should be warding to the best of their abilities?

Dryditch1 votes

I didn't actually look at your account beyond rank to make sure you weren't also a bronzie.

All my comment was meant to communicate is that down here in Bronze, you can't take anything for granted. Teams do things for no reason whatsoever and players don't understand that placing a single control ward after their first back does not mean they're doing their part to ward the map.

King LeBong1 votes

I interpreted "high seat in gold" as sarcastic, seeing as how gold is pretty low in itself.

Honestly if in bronze, I'd be grateful if anyone buys any control wards at all. Atleast they're doing something, where as back in S4 I saw bronze games from someone I was coaching where not a single ward was placed. Not even a trinket, ever.

Dryditch1 votes

Just a note, Gold represents the top 20% of players in League, so... shrug

Anyway, yeah... down here, people are fucking idiotic.

I had a lux support ask: "Why would I buy sightstone if it doesn't give me damage?"

"I don't know, do you like having extra health?"

Just... logic doesn't exist down in Bronze, and I'm looking forward to the day I have the time to actually climb out.

Escheton2 votes

item 3363 : Infinite wards. Best used in own jungle. Best used on those bushes in the sidelane noone ever goes in once laning phase is over. Good to keep track of who is pushing what where.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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item 3363 : Infinite wards. Best used in own jungle. Best used on those bushes in the sidelane noone ever goes in once laning phase is over. Good to keep track of who is pushing what where.

Each person can drop one every 60 seconds. Assuming you get level 9 around 10 minutes into the game, and the game lasts 30 minutes, if everyone had one then it would mean 100 wards that are permanent. That would be freaking amazing.

The catch is getting people to actually remember trinkets exist.

Luxs Destiny2 votes

It's a 120~ sec CD at level 9, though.

GankedFromBehind1 votes

2 1/2 minutes at level 9.

It's not worth upgrading til it starts to transition to the later stage of mid game.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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It's a 120~ sec CD at level 9, though.

Huh. Didn't know that. That's stupid.

Pierce The Veal2 votes

Tbh it would be nice if there was a boot upgrade that acted like a sightstone. Or an expensive trinket upgrade.

BuffYasuoPls1 votes

True

Yaśuo Main1 votes

ikr

Spoofghoul1 votes

i don't know man i just buy item 2303 when i play a tank or item 2301 if playing mage and i don't think vision is good enough

Anastaecia1 votes

I have trouble getting my teams to upgrade wards. I can even say it 2 or 3 times...nothing. WTF! The crazy thing is, it's worse now when I was new playing with other noobs. Makes no sense.

Dryditch2 votes

Sometimes for a top laner who's splitting it makes more sense to keep yellow trinket. Just saying.

kristopher2051 votes

I always go mid and actually almost every game I ward more than my supports.

BigBellBrute1 votes

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You know what that means?

It means that the support, while they DO ward more than any other role, CAN'T keep vision of the entire map.

Even if we are at ward cap, the map is still going to be dark unless you provide some vision yourself. So, stop bitching for one minute and buy a goddamn item 2055

Just shut up and be a good support and ward the entire map. And no, I'm not going with you. You're a big boy now. There aren't any giant bugs or bears or other monsters in the jungle.

Dryditch1 votes

There definitely aren't blind monks or knifecats lurking in bushes. noooo.

BigBellBrute1 votes

That's right. No more about these blind monks. And we're sick and tired of your tall tales about giant robots setting fires.

Oelyk1 votes

Is this post season 3(or was it 4?) again? When they added a ward cap? Man... the boards went ape shit over that.

rtbf761092711 votes

Even without buying controls wards, i have noticed from the stats after many of my games that carries were not even placing normal wards. Just walking around with 2 charges for 95% of the game, placing 3 total in the game..

MrHaZeYo1 votes

I wish I could buy Green Wards again.

One game for the Lols last year me and my friends all built Sightstones and just lit the map up like a xmas tree.

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