Tips for Lulu?

Swarovsko··1 votes·2,033 views

So I started playing Lulu support because I'm tired of playing Janna everytime I see Hecarim Vi Zac and because her voice in italian sounds magnificent + I love what she says. The only problem is that I don't know if what I'm building (item 3107 item 3504 item 3190 item 3117 item 3222 item 2301) is good. Also, should I max Q first and Is she better with thunderlord?

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EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Windspeaker's Blessing is incredibly valuable with Locket of the Iron Solari and Redemption since it can provide bonus resistance to multiple allies. While Thunderlord's Decree might be better for bullying in the laning phase, Windspeaker's Blessing scales far better.

item 3301 vs item 3303 largely depends on whether or not you are capable of harassing your opponent in lane. If you have to play passively, Ancient Coin is probably the better option for sustain.

Personally, I don't bother with Mikael's Crucible since I probably won't use it at the proper time. It is nice if the enemy has something like Ashe or Lissandra, but a QSS on the ADC would probably be superior.

For runes, I would probably focus on poking down your opponent with autoattacks:

  • Attack Damage Marks
  • Flat AP Quints (optionally, one Armor Quint)
  • Flat Health or Armor Seals
  • Flat AP or MR Glyphs

Her damage is rather low (since you are generally using shield on your ADC), so hybrid/magic pen marks aren't that worth-while.

Swarovsko1 votes

Thanks for the advice

what you deserve2 votes

Take thunderlord, max qwe, build this item 3146 item 3124 item 3091 item 3153 item 3020 item 3100

u welcome

Swarovsko1 votes

lol thanks I'm probably gonna try that build too out of ranked

what you deserve1 votes

i recommend it top if jg swap out botrk for bloodrazor with red smite

ChaddyFantome2 votes

Level 7 Lulu main here.

Playing lulu is all about knowing the proper time to use what and when and on whom.

Max E first in every matchup. Max W second and Q Last.

E is just your most consistent spell. It makes for easy and safe harass and also provides shielding and can't miss like Q.

W second because the Attack Speed buff and speed duration are invaluable mid game.

Max Q last because honestly it doesn't give you anything beyond the slow.

Starting items, most commonly you will run item 3303 , but always consider item 3301 when in a passive lane. You will get far more gold in a lane where you can't consistently harass if you have coin than with Spellthief.

In lane, you wanna either E-Auto attack for harass in a harass lane, or stay back and shield enemy poke is a passive lane.

In a straight fight, 9/10 you wanna prioritize shielding over the damage from your E. Mitigating damage is far more important in a straight fight than the measly damage your E does.

When the enemy has a primary threat that will decimate your teammates on engage like a Riven or assassin, prioritize saving your W for the Polymorph just for them. it will singlehandedly win you teamfights.

Remember, it is often better to use the W speed boost to run away as opposed to trying to Polymorph them to lead an escape. use Polymorph in situations where you have to fight is out moreso than as a means to escape.

As lulu, item 3504 is your best friend and core item. Together with your W, you can give a whopping 70% attack speed to a teammates when you shield them and Whimsy them. This is both very good for attack speed champs and ADCs on your team as well as for providing sustain between skirmishes . it is also incredible for taking objectives.

You can basically turn any ganker into an initiator with yoru ulti, as it provides an AoE knockup and slow,and gives your ally bonus Health, acting as a pseudo heal if they are not full HP after it ends. Walking up and Polymorphing the enemy laner can often be a free kill once the jungler or laner comes to gank. be ready to do this when your teammates come to gank bot.

The reverse is also true. lulu has deceptively potent roams. her W allows her to travel River at a decent pace and also makes for very powerful CC midlane on the enemy laner. If they are low and running, E-Q with a W somewhere will often be all you need to secure your midlaner a kill or burn an enemy flash.

If they are int he mist of fighting, Shielding your ally then polymorphing the enemy is your go to plan.

For boots, I preferitem 3009 , but have been going item 3158 as of late for the early CDR. it is a very quick and potent powerspike that i am enjoying quite a bit.

In aggressive lanes, get Thunderlords for the poke while in passive lanes, get windspeakers. Even in non passive lanes, i would recommend windpeakers 9/10 over Thunderlords since Thunderlords completely falls of after lane phase for you, while Windspeakers scales with your build and items.

Supports you typically wanna go aggressive into are heavy engage supports like Blitzcrank Thresh Alistar Leona or enemy adcs like Vayne Draven Twitch .

Especially Twitch . Your E provides true sight, so tagging him with it before he can finish his Q is a potent counter measure to his escapes.

Go passive into AP mage supports like Malzahar Zyra Brand . You will become much more useful than them as long as you get your ADC though lane unscathed.

With Windpeakers, Lulu E can Block 100% of Brand 's W+ his passive and DFT damage and still have shield left over.

Lulu's Passive Pix bolt's make it to where she can 1 shot Zyra's plants. Consider this when laning against Zyra. Focus on blocking the plant damage and killing the plants.

Malzahar is similar. Whenever he gets his E on you or the ADC, shield him and kite back, killing his voidlings.

use your E-Q combo to pop his Spellshield off before en engage , especially when your jungler comes in.

Using either your ulti or Polymorph when he ults will cancel it so if he is level 6, expect is and save either of for when he does.

For Runes I go with Flat AP Marks, HP Seals Flat AP Glyphs and Flat AP Quints. This allows my shields and Speedboost to be just a little more potent in the early game. I use Flat AP as opposed to MMpen because your actual utility doesn't scale with penetration, just AP.

For masteries its always been 0/18/12 going Wanderer - Secret Stash - Meditation - Bandit - Intelligence - and then either Tlords or Windspeakers depending on the situation in Cunning,

  • You wont get much mileage out of savagery since you won't be last hitting and the pushing power ti give sis negligible.
  • Secret Stash is basically the only of the 3 mid tiers that you can effectively use.
  • Having the Mana regen as Lulu is far more invaluable for lane presence and sustain, even in the later stages of the game where you ill be spamming spells a lot. This along with your itemization allows you to recuperate between skirmishes and such.
  • Bandit because you are support and not taking it is basically handicapping yourself in terms of income since you can't clear waves and have no kill pressure alone.
  • Intelligence over Precision. Always. No iffs and or buts. Yes, even if you are going the aggressive route. The extra 5% CDR is so invaluable to Lulu it isn't even funny.

In lane, this allows you to not only harass more frequently and consistently, but also allows you more uptime of your shield to block enemy poke and damage.

In the midgame, that 5% CDR can mean the difference between the life or death of an ally to ignite damage.

Lulu's shield lasts 6 seconds. With 45% CDR, You can get your E to about 4 seconds and change.

You can get Your E to have a CD that is shorter than the duration of the actual Shield. That is some URF level shit. Your Q goes to about 2 seconds and Your W is basically always up as soon as its duration ends. Having this much uptime of your entire arsenal of tools is too much potency to give up as Lulu support.

The amount of damage you will mitigate, Disruption you will cause and teammates that you will buff will make you the teams most valuable player and regardless of all the memes about supports never getting any credit, they WILL notice.

Giving all of that up for a bit extra damage on your harass in lane is a joke in comparison.


Matchups.


Lulu matches best with champions that like on-hits and attack speed, since her W and Passive both provide and are maximized by these champions.

For Marskman, this includes but is not limited to : Ashe Jinx KogMaw Vayne Varus Caitlyn Twitch Kalista

for non marskman and other champs that are in other positions on the team, you have , but not limited to:

XinZhao Warwick Azir Vi Ekko TwistedFate Aatrox Tryndamere Yasuo MasterYi Fizz Jax Kindred Kled Kayle Nasus Shyvana Skarner TahmKench Udyr Trundle Teemo Volibear Fiora Gangplank Mordekaiser Jayce Urgot

When you Shield your Ally, you give them your passive, which means that Pix attacks in accordance to their Attack speed. The amount of damage does rack up quickly.

She also goes well with champs that like Movespeed:

Hecarim Vayne Talon MasterYi Ekko Warwick etc.

As you can see, lulu can be extremely useful to a lot of champions.


Counters


Imo Lulu has no true hard counters except maybe Morgana since Black shield Blocks your W and ulti knockup, but the opponents that do best against her are champs with legitimate heals.

Lulu wins lanes by either poking out champions or preventing them from poking you out.

Heal champions like Soraka and Nami do best against her because they laugh at all her poke.

Morganna can be beat by simply using your Passive and Q/E to pop black shield. Thunderlords might be needed in this matchup just to make it easier to do. it depends on the enemy ADC and whether they are a lane bully of a passive farmer.

Sona is a weird one. Her Poke utterly falls off in the laning phase around level 4 or so or after your first back.

You can then transition to aggressive to force her to burn all her mana on heals. before then , prioritize shielding her Q's and Passive Autos.

Janna is another one. While she has no true heals before 6, similar to you. she does play similarly to Soraka in that all she wants to do is get your lane partner though laning phase safely.

The key is simply to bait out her Shields and then poke as much as possible. You might not get a kill in lane but you will zone and force them to back and that is all you need to start putting damage on tower and potentially start forcing her to shield the tower. W-ing your ADC will make quick work of getting substantial damage on it early on.

..and that's about it.

For tips for laning AGAINST lulu.. Im not telling ;P

Hope this helps. **Stay purple! **

Swarovsko2 votes

Thanks a lot! It really helped me.

Moooose31 votes

It depends on how you play her. That build is an example of a good build, but certain items are good against certain comps. I wouldn't necessarily go censor or locket or mikaels every game, it depends on what you're against. And for thunderlords vs. windspeakers it depends on how you play the game. If you snowball early with lane pressure a lot go thunderlords to help with that, but if you play more passive get windspeaker because it's much much better late game.

Swarovsko1 votes

Thank you for the advice!

Death Rive1 votes

When I play Lulu, I max Q first because its just better poke, but if youre facing an overly agressive botlane (Draven & Leona) it can be better to mac sheild. Also, I like building Frost queen, redemption and locket for better team fights. I also always use windspeakers.

Swarovsko1 votes

Thanks for the advice

Gibberwatt1 votes

I don't personally play Lulu, but I have coached friends. for the starter, I would definetly suggest item 3303, since your q can easily pick up those stacks. Harass for days.

Otherwise, for basic guidlines, I would suggest acquiring as much Cd as possible, with some mild tankiness, to avoid getting booped late game. you can then probably fill in the rest with ap/healing.

Thus, item 3107 is god to you (like most supps, I guess) personally, I prefer item 3009 over zoom-boots, since these stay through combat, and dodging is more important to me than running fast down river. I would also suggest item 3174, as that gives your sheild a bonus heal, as long as you keep tapping the enemies. Always nice. Afterwards, I would build more to the situation - if your team needs some face-tank, I would get some tank like item 3065 item 3102 item 3742 if the other team has lifesteal out the butt, get urself some item 3165, for that greivous wounds. and cd. always cd.

Otherwise, I leave it up to you.

xWaters1 votes

Wow thanks for that long post. I'm a level 7 taric main who used to play quite a bit of Lulu then dropped her for my boy Taric. After reading your guide, I'll play a few games with her again soon.

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