Wriggles back please. gimme some light to deal with the duck blade.

Denims Wrath666·Jul 21, 2017·1 votes·266 views

riot just made almost every ad champ that I DONT PLAY completely busted in the jungle. i just want my wriggles back. i buy over 10 wards EVERY GAME i play jax. like if there was a stat for it (which wow riot thats still not a factor of stats?) you could see im not lying. in both of my accounts if i have a free item slot i have wards in it. i'd rather have something thats gunna be offensive like wriggles was. it would be countered by duck blade in a sense but it would also counter duck blades damage. this would honestly be the perfect time to bring wriggles back. not feral flare. just the lifesteal, armor, ad, random magic crit on minions and monsters, and the ward passive ( i would expect this ward would be a control ward... but omg if you made the ward PINK ward i would just die)

15 Comments

The Leo CatJul 21, 20171 votes

Who the hell is wriggles o.o;

Denims Wrath666Jul 21, 20171 votes

wriggles lantern was basically the meta item for adcs and anyone who was an ad jungler during season 1 and 2 i think. it was like 30 armor, 15 ad, 10% lifesteal, had a random proc of smite to minions and monsters, and it had a ward as an active. it is one of the reason why trinkets are in the game. all that for 1600 gold. it was a sexy first buy.

The Leo CatJul 21, 20171 votes

God damn that sounds nice.

BeatzBoyFTWJul 21, 20171 votes

Yet again, another spam thread which both Boards & Riot won't give a shit about. Just give it up. This is nothing more than a depressing begging.

Denims Wrath666Jul 21, 20171 votes

yeah you can go stuff yourself. pardon me for seeing the practicality of bringing this item back.

GinoSoldierJul 21, 20171 votes

You could just get the GREEN smite. You know, the one that gives you free wards?

The Leo CatJul 21, 20171 votes

But green smite doesn't give you wards, armor, 15ad, 10% lifesteal, and a random proc of smite on minions.

Denims Wrath666Jul 21, 20171 votes

also skirmishers is the best smite item. im not going to go green smite jax? you'd never be able to take on people with a few levels up on you without it. like these guys trying to solve my problem with sight stone and green smite is completely ignoring my whole point.

GinoSoldierJul 21, 20171 votes

Skirmisher's isn't the best item. Compared to Tracker's Knife, it doesn't let you spy on enemy jungler position across the map, or grant your team vision, or ward hop on champs who can. Skirmisher's might be the best at facerolling combat, but it's also subpar to Stalker's Blade at chasing/escaping opponents.

As far as stats go, Smite items give out ridiculous jungle clear capacity as it is, and the reason it's this way is if junglers get straight out combat stats while building their first items (before the final forms they have), they'd be way too strong. Champs like Lee and Jax and Kayn can already faceroll most opponents without any stats earlygame, giving them AS, lifesteal and AD as well as armor would literally break the jungle in it's current state.

Mage and Tank junglers would immediately be left in the dust, unable to either jungle clear as fast as or combat AD junglers.

Denims Wrath666Jul 21, 20171 votes

erm, so lemme get this straight... you're defending duck blade by saying wriggles would be too much for ad junglers? wriggles could easily be put on anyone in the jungle because of its stats. its a good early game item, and falls off pretty fast in comparison to most. you did read that i buy wards as often as i can right? like telling me the importance of them seems like you're just attempting to tell me how to meta without knowing a single thing about my playstyle. you do you tho.

The Leo CatJul 21, 20171 votes

You'd never be able to duel 1v1 in the early game with Kindred without Smite. I always grab it.

Denims Wrath666Jul 21, 20171 votes

exactly. skirmishers is the better jungle item. at least on anyone who tries to go for picks.

The Leo CatJul 21, 20171 votes

However, some junglers need the other items more.

Warwick for instance could use Chilling Smite, or Challenging Smite. Chilling is more popular as he doesn't give a shit about taking damage.

Lee Sin always needs the Tracker's Knife for the extra wards for his ward hopping.

Volibear needs Chilling Smite because he is incredibly slow. And he normally is the one with the CC when he goes for the gank.

Kindred used to be better off with Tracker's Knife, because back then she actually had an early game that was decent. Tracker's Knife was important on her because her design revolves around either Counter Jungling, or Counter Ganking. This was so she could track the enemy jungler's movement and go counter jungle, counter gank, or take marks. Now she ALWAYS needs Challenging smite because she has no early game power - meh mid game power, doesn't scale as fast as most ADCs, and is squishy as all hell. Her saving grace right now is that she has a high burst rotation on squishies. But that's pretty much it.

Vi is better off with Chilling Smite. She deals enough damage, and will normally kill anyone who dares to 1v1 her. So the chilling smite is so she can catch up to people who try to run away.

Shyvana typically needs Chilling Smite more than Challenging Smite. She's SLOOOW in dragon form and is prone to being kited.

Hecarim needs Chilling smite for obvious reasons.