Do CDR boots really need a price nerf with no compensation?

Rebonack·Feb 4, 2016·7 votes·750 views

Would it break them to bump one or both of their CDR stats up to 15%?

15 Comments

Critmaster GarenFeb 4, 20162 votes

what exactly are you talking about? do they have a cost increase on the pbe?

ItsCalledALanceFeb 4, 20161 votes

its proposed atm.

Give riot a day or so, and they'll be back to cardboard tier boots.

RebonackFeb 4, 20165 votes

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what exactly are you talking about? do they have a cost increase on the pbe?

All the 'cheap' boots have had their price bumped from 800 to 900 on PBE.

Mobis are getting higher out of combat mobility. Swifties are getting nothing since they're already amazing. Lucies are getting nothing because I have no idea.

I still think it would be a decent idea to make them build out of item 1001 + item 3114 and grant some mana regen. That would put them on par with the other more expensive boot options and allow them to be more attractive to a wider range of champions.

EvilMerodachFeb 4, 20161 votes

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All the 'cheap' boots have had their price bumped from 800 to 900 on PBE.

Mobis are getting higher out of combat mobility. Swifties are getting nothing since they're already amazing. Lucies are getting nothing because I have no idea.

I still think it would be a decent idea to make them build out of + and grant some mana regen. That would put them on par with the other more expensive boot options and allow them to be more attractive to a wider range of champions.

That'd run into some weird problems with some agro supports. And all non-mana reliant champs that build them.. Rengar Riven Zed You know what..nevermind...imokwiththis.jpg

RebonackFeb 4, 20162 votes

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That'd run into some weird problems with some agro supports. And all non-mana reliant champs that build them.. You know what..nevermind...imokwiththis.jpg

It would be a buff to Jayce and a nerf to manaless AD twats who like to run them.

Choosing between Mpen and CRD/mana regen would be a much more compelling choice on a lot of Mages, too.

ErockandrollFeb 4, 20161 votes

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It would be a buff to Jayce and a nerf to manaless AD twats who like to run them.

Choosing between Mpen and CRD/mana regen would be a much more compelling choice on a lot of Mages, too.

You know, champions who have very few sources of CDR since it's mostly stat bind to mana. And the fact that AD's have very few boot options if they don't scale with Attack Speed.

Mages all ready have a compelling choice between those too boots though. (actually Lucidity boot's were the most popular because it's cheaper.) And yet, their really wouldn't be a good reason not to get Lucidity boots if it had Mana regen. Fix mana problems with an item that would help dodge skill shots, as well as reduce the travel time to lane. And I'm almost certainly sure that it would be abused by poke/heal supports. A class a champion that Lucidity boots were balanced around.

Yosuke ApperuFeb 4, 20161 votes

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All the 'cheap' boots have had their price bumped from 800 to 900 on PBE.

Mobis are getting higher out of combat mobility. Swifties are getting nothing since they're already amazing. Lucies are getting nothing because I have no idea.

I still think it would be a decent idea to make them build out of + and grant some mana regen. That would put them on par with the other more expensive boot options and allow them to be more attractive to a wider range of champions.

Mana regen boots pls <3 RITO PLEASEEE I need them for Shen kappa... no but seriously mana regen boots sound amazing <3

Critmaster GarenFeb 4, 20161 votes

did something happen in esports? i havent seen those boots a lot.

RebonackFeb 4, 20161 votes

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did something happen in esports? i havent seen those boots a lot.

Boots of Swiftness were buffed, coupled with Mercs getting nerfed.

As a result, basically everyone is running Boots of Swiftness in high level play.

The Bearded BardFeb 4, 20161 votes

I'd rather see sorcs get a price decrease than an increase on lucies. There's tons of reasons I'm buying lucies on near every mage instead of sorcs. Lower price, gets me to 40% cdr, added summ reduction is always nice, but the main reason is sorcs don't feel worth at all.

RebonackFeb 4, 20161 votes

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I'd rather see sorcs get a price decrease than an increase on lucies. There's tons of reasons I'm buying lucies on near every mage instead of sorcs. Lower price, gets me to 40% cdr, added summ reduction is always nice, but the main reason is sorcs don't feel worth at all.

An interesting point of view.

Magic pen is one of the most cost effective ways of increasing raw burst. Do you play mages mostly focused on utility and/or CC?

qetzelFeb 4, 20161 votes

I think yes they do. They are currently bought in the vast majority of games over similar choices. They are "crowding out" other boot options. Either the other boot options need a buff or they need a nerf. Given that they were the last ones to be changed, it is likely that they are out of line rather than their competitors. They need a nerf - compensation for a nerf is inly given when the goal is a power shift or a change that should have no change in power, not when the goal is to make them weaker

commit an heroFeb 4, 20161 votes

I'd like to have the CDR upped to 15%. I am tired of always being 5% CDR off of being maxium CDR even though I have invested in CDR.

WarlockLawFeb 4, 20161 votes

There is no cdr in the masteries and no item gives anything other than 10% or 20% cdr, if they add another 5% it would not be optimal unless you also ran 5% in your runes