Cassiopeia, her mana management and a E spam mechanic proposal.

LordOfTheLeague·12/3/2015, 10:31:03 AM·9 votes·2,042 views

I think there is a flaw with cassiopeia design. Specifically with how much mana her E (twin fang) cost and how she can't really build anything to reduce her mana cost. The problem come in fights and during objectives mostly. She spam her E a lot and the mana cost increase really fast.

I've always seen cassio as an Ap marksman so while Ad marksmen dps (their auto attacks) cost nothing, she use 90 mana every time she uses twing fang. And we all know that taking objectives and and dpsing in team fights is essential for a dps champion.

At level 18 with a seraph embrace, she has about 2400 mana. 1 hit is about 5% of her mana bar. While doing baron or dragon you can go oom really fast.

I know twin fang deals a lot of damage so I would like a base damage reduction at later ranks (and maybe a slight ratio increase) vs a reduction of mana cost or the new mechanic that I propose below :

Here is the "spam mechanic" I propose :

Twin fang is the same as is but every time you use it vs the same target, you reduce the cost of the next twin fang by 30%. Stacks 3 times additionally. That would keep the initial mana cost but in a long span of time, that would remove her stupid mana cost.

34 Comments

Khell DarkWolf12/3/2015, 10:47:54 AM4 votes

WTB old Cassiopeia

- Former Cass main Cassiopeia

TheUltimateSpear12/13/2015, 9:35:35 PM2 votes

As someone said below, this would be like a mini-version of old Cassiopeia's passive. Her old passive gave 10% mana cost reduction on spells as she casted, stacking up to 5 times.

Back on topic it seems like a solid idea since Cass needs some buffs and a little homage to old passive would be an extra bonus.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Bleediss12/3/2015, 10:39:45 AM1 votes

this would make her broken beyond belief and give her a 60%+ winrate

no

the deathfire mastery is already absurdly strong on her and she doesn't need her old passive to make her E now a machinegun you can use to kill anyone at any moment

even then cass got indirectly buffed during preseason anyway with the new mastery so she doesn't really need buffs

and to note her E has a high mana cost on a spammy ability to prevent her from being able to machinegun anyone she wants to death, this is why old cass was the strongest champion in the game and the only reason she wasn't nerfed is because she had some bugs that stopped her from reaching full power

also the comparison that cass's E is like an ADC's AA only with a mana cost makes little sense when the bigger picture says all of cass's spells do high damage lategame, like they should, and cass is offered far more utility than an ADC through itemization which is where she can make herself more than just a machinegun with her other spells

Fredart12/3/2015, 1:28:36 PM1 votes

Just get roa and chalice.

AquariusGine12/3/2015, 6:43:48 PM1 votes

Bleediss sounds like someone who lost to Cass hard and is salty. The stupidity in his comments.. free stun, free slow.. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

I mean, let's just list all her strengths.

Not the fact she needs to land poison before spamming E. Or having to wait a split second after poison has landed or E will go on 5 sec CD..

Rylai is a situational item on Cassiopeia if the enemy team comp isn't mostly kitable melees. Why? You actually need to get close, land Q / W before you can start spamming perma-slow E's. No mage or assassin would ever give Cass that chance

Bleediss12/4/2015, 5:57:26 PM1 votes

let me just say though i can possibly see why anyone would see she has an issue in the first place

cassiopeia is a champion designed to only do one thing

and not much else really

pump out lots of DPS, that's about it

she doesn't have much variety where you might be able to do something else

she doesn't have much versatility for certain situations

she's really just a very defined champion of what she does and what she's going to do

and even though that sucks, she's balanced because of it, but if you feel like a champion being this particular about what they do is boring, then buffs aren't going to fix it, a rework is to make cassiopeia a poison mage of more variety/versatility

i doubt it'll happen, but that's what i'd request, not a buff, as a buff will just throw her already balanced state overboard