Am I the only one who thinks MF is too strong?

TekkenPlayer··28 votes·3,570 views

Strong laning, strong teamfights.. Where am I wrong? She is not as mobile but has free attack speed.. Qs have a wide hitbox and if the ADC is near but sidesteps it just hit confirms anyway. The damage of Q is huge. E with some cc heavy support is instant death. And R shreds teams if she isn't locked down straight away and also crits..

42 Comments

Prospector Pete11 votes

The buff to her ult was too much IMO.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prospector Pete,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FyZ2AETA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-12-20T19:09:16.142+0000)

The buff to her ult was too much IMO.

Nah, that's what SHOULD be strong about her. Nerf the rest, but keep the ult.

Yfrappefort4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prospector Pete,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FyZ2AETA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-12-20T19:09:16.142+0000)

The buff to her ult was too much IMO.

Then you realize you just have to move out of throw any kind of CC to cancel it. People just forgot how to play around MF, since she has been out of the meta for so long. Of course if you stand in it for the whole duration you will get really hurt, as it should be.

SpecterVonBaren8 votes

Because she sucks at dueling now. Riot nerfed her base AD to be the third lowest in the game and have THE lowest AD per level in the game. She is terrible at dealing damage to a single target now, she needs that ult late game to make up for this.

Ichinose7 votes

I only fear her passive in early-game and her ult in Teamfights if their team has large stun/cc abilities (Ex : Sona , Malphite ... etc.) . Otherwise , she's too weak. One anti-marksman assassin or fighter immediately knocks out MF.

TekkenPlayer3 votes

God bless rengar

Ch0c0lateJesus5 votes

Her ult does more damage than Velkoz

Seems fine to me. Arent ADCs supposed to have huge aoe damage along with huge auto attacks?

Ichinose5 votes

Don't read the total damage. It's just a bait to make you say OMG MF ULT IS TOO STRONG I WILL USE IT EVRITIEM but no. Don't f#½?ing fail onto this trap. If you can hit ALL of your bullets with ult you give that damage. In fact it is hard to possible since you're firing in a wide cone so you can only hit all the bullets when enemy is very close to you.

TL DR ; Don't trust your ult , use auto-attacks.

Ch0c0lateJesus4 votes

I've had MF ult do 1000+ damage to me.

It's too much, even if it does leave her open to being jumped.

Full Brain4 votes

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I've had MF ult do 1000+ damage to me.

It's too much, even if it does leave her open to being jumped.

Move.

She is about average for her character type.

Ichinose6 votes

Also Nasus can do 2500+ DMG in moments with 300+ stacks , Also Rengar can one-shot when he do a single bush-jump with 3 skills activate on air. Also Teemo can hardcore something to you with Q + E combo with only item 3151 item 3135 item 3115 item 3089 . Also Ekko can still do heavy AP burst damage even he builds tank instead of full AP.

And you still thinking about Miss Fortune's lucky ult which gave only 1000 damage ?

oh man .__.

TekkenPlayer3 votes

MF only needs two items.

Ichinose4 votes

And Nasus only needs a item 3071.

If Nasus' rival is Yorick Illaoi , he only needs a item 1036 .

Dalanin3 votes

Yet to meet a nasus that uses Black Cleaver, item 3078 or item 3025 Are much better options for him... Trinity being a Greedy pick tho

Ichinose2 votes

**Nasus with Black Cleaver = **

wow lots of dmg u r cls pruh

**Nasus with Trinity Edge = **

#YOU TERRORIST TYRANT DESPOT MANIAC YOU MUST BE ERASEN FROM THIS PEACEFUL WORLD I CALL 911

Shrek Luigi1 votes

item 3100 is the true Nasus Sheen Item.

Shonjl4 votes

Only time MF ult ever does that much is if you stand in the entire duration in which case, unless you are CCed in which case they played it out well and you were caught, is entirely your fault.

Its basically no different that Lucian's Ult, if you eat every single bullet it will do insane damage, like over 2k worth, but in reality you will be lucky to even land 400-800 of it.

Ch0c0lateJesus3 votes

Lucian ult is single target. Nuff said.

Samus724 votes

Too strong? Ha. She's a glass cannon even with defense items. I say this with her being one of my favorite characters.

Knalxz2 votes

She doesn't need defense when she can heal back all of her damage. MF with Lifesteal is broken IMO. Her W should reduce it's value with each level because, right now it just makes her the best ADC if you have a support like Thresh or Bard.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

She's not "broken" with any form of sustain but it is pretty hilarious to see an MF with Death's Dance simply because her ultimate heals her.

MunchCrunchLunch3 votes

No. shes not.

Changsty3 votes

She also has 63 base AD at lv 18. For comparison Amumu has 118.

Weasel Kensei3 votes

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She also has 63 base AD at lv 18. For comparison Amumu has 118.

... yes... amu, a tank that dosnt built AD items scales a bigger base AD... so do all tanks. Tanks dont build crit, AD, and atk speed... they all have high base damages. Sion, a tank, has 128 base AD at 18. Galio has 119 base AD at 18, wait hes a tank.... ermm.

Well, that 63 base is low, oh wait, Love Tap, + AD items, well I guess it seems low... if that was all you knew about.

At any rate, MF is in the top 5 on champ win % atm.

http://www.lolking.net/champions

So, pretty strong, solid pick for ADC, despite all these attention deflectors trying to say how pitiful she is. Seems shes so pitifully "1 shoted" that shes winning more games than any other ADC.... logic, facts, reason... pfff, who dose that.

WaffleToast2223 votes

Yea, her q is way too strong in lane. If you kill a minion with your q then it bounces, rip 150 health. Do that a couple of times combined with 1-2 autos and the enemy is already at 1/3 health. Also the problem with the ult is either the scaling, or the range, I don't really know. It does absurd amounts of damage while being very difficult to escape because it is just a huge range.

ShadowParker2 votes

It also takes quite a bit of mastery of continually pull it off.

Sassmast3r2 votes

Well, if you ask me, I really think the primary issue right now is the amount of damage her ultimate can do. First of all, it does not need to be able to critical strike, and I have no idea why it was added. Secondarily, it's damage needs a pretty heavy nerf honestly, or they need to make her suck even more at 1v1ing. If they did the ladder though, she would become much too challenging to use in the laning phase. That's just my opinion though.

Leu072 votes

Her ult can be evaded easily, she can be interrupted as well, her overall AA damage is really weak compared to other adcs, she has currently the LOWEST base AD and the LOWEST AD scaling of any adc. I think she is pretty balanced.

Twitch Chat2 votes

I was having trouble making her work and then I started maxing out make it rain first. Holy shit this skill is the most broken ad carry skill in the entire game. Strong lane harass that procs thunderlords every cast and is reliable to the point of being unavoidable. Setting up her ult with an instant 1000 range 60% slow is just too easy to pull off.

Daxterr2 votes

Personally I don't mind her ult. I like the huge range of it but the damage could be tuned down a bit. The problem I have is her walking into lane and then 2 shotting people with q. I think it's a fairly BS an unreliable mechanic. I think it was better when it had really forgiving bounce range but didn't do absurd damage. That's just my opinion though and I don't play missfortune

Mistericeycube2 votes

Her new passive is super op and her new W is amazing yes she is a tad opMissFortune item 3902

Rebonack1 votes

She's incredibly strong when paired with AoE lockdown Ults.

She's just pretty decent when she isn't.

Now, if only we could convince Riot to let Koggy be pretty decent when he doesn't have a whole team built around him...

ShadowParker1 votes

Definately think it's just the ult. Everything else is fine.

Beldair1 votes

What everyone is doing wrong against her is not having a Braum support. XD

Shonjl1 votes

Meh, I didn't notice, her ult is powerful but the rest of her I don't even pay attention to. I barely play ADC but when I do and go against her I always win lane since she really has no poke. Double up or w/e its called only hurts if it bounces to you so if she flat out targets you it tickles, and she has nothing else going for her after that. Her AoE may as well not exist since unless she builds AP it does no damage and the slow is ignorable, only time I actively try to dodge it is very early laning phase, otherwise I just ignore the measly 50-100 damage it does the moment I get a LS item. And her Strut I may counter since I usually ADC Ashe.

That Ult is the only thing I ever fear as ADC or any champ in general. I just try to be in open areas as much as possible so she can't bottleneck ult, just wait for it to be over and she kinda just sits there. She doesn't have the burst of a Graves or the range of a Caitlyn nor the attack speed of a Vayne or machinegun Ashe.

PunisherJBY1 votes

Don't forget her passive though. She has to alternate targets to get full damage. Early game she can't even poke well without her Q and E. Also she has to position correctly to have ult be effective. I do see your point that she can do a lot of damage but it has quite a price it pays in very little damage that can target the same champion. In a team fight if she is the only one who can do damage i found she was very unreliable (unless there is just tons of cc involved and a perfect ult).

Tik1151 votes

Thing is in laning phase MF depends on her Q which isn't that cheap mana wise, has a short bounce range both in the cone and distance and has a large degree of luck ( it will prioritize things directly behind the hit and will only prioritize champions hit by love tap) and in Team fights she depends on her ult which while having a wide spread roots her in one direction for 3 seconds lest she lose alot of damage both of them depend on MF to position herself before using her abilities, if a fight breaks out before she can get in a good spot the team will miss alot of her damage, now while its true for most carries the others have things to ether let them get into position or they have means to be effective where they are (EG Corki Valkrie or Jinx rockets).

Also she has very poor peel and mobility, without her W passive she loses alot of move speed, her only CC is a slow which won't stop alot of things especially if she panic casts it, she's essentially what a very immobile carry should be, lack mobility and peel in exchange for superior firepower.

Not to mention if somebody picks MF, you counter pick Braum and laugh as you make what she depends on useless

Dalanin2 votes

I don't really care about mf, however i don't think her q should be Hitting me if i walk to the side of a minion.. That doesn't make any sense "oh look miss fortune q'd a minion.. ill walk to a side quick to dodge it..." --1 second later- "you have been slain".

TekkenPlayer2 votes

Thats the thing. If you are behind a minion that is nearly dying, Q + lovetap + onhit effects will just 45% you

Irelia Bot1 votes

Cut the buff that was given to her ult in half and she will be fine.

Zeraphicus1 votes

Just played against one, dominated her every phase of the game ended 17/5/6 as quinn, we went in baron pit late game, she dropped an e, and ult killed 3 of us from full health (1900 damage to me before I died ). We should have baroned against her I guess.

Her early game is rediculous, level 3 her q did 50% of my health, I used to think you had to be directly behind minions to get hit, but I was almost at a 90 degree angle to the side and it bounced to me. Ludicrous.

ClickTek1 votes

Miss Fortune is in a really good place at the moment.

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