Lack of new lawful good characters is upsetting

TekkenPlayer·10/30/2018, 9:25:36 AM·32 votes·13,830 views

the amount of edgy + chaotic champions release lately is a bit redundant.

Lawful characters are pretty interesting, but they are often shown as evil/the noble tyrant archetype as well (aka swain/ godking garen/ dawnbringer riven, etc)

There was potential with Galio with this, but he kindve ended up being a frat brother that likes to beat up potential threats

Where are the self righteous peons of the law? The prudent but kind white mage? The holy paladin in armor? Or even that old faux father figure spitting random unfiltered advice?

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nelogis10/30/2018, 12:32:47 PM25 votes

Do you think Yorick is either evil or chaotic? This guy is as good as it gets.

Propably has a more purer heart than any of those demacian "heroes".

Just because it isn't a text-book example of lawfully good guy named bob that has never done or said anything wrong in his entire life doesn't mean that they aren't heroes beneath the masks they carry.

Yorick is your holy paladin in armor but the armor has become dark from the battles he fought and covered in mist from the curse he has sworn to defeat.

Lewanor10/30/2018, 10:05:04 AM13 votes

Just wait for Kayle, if she doesn't have a character like that i don't know who will

Warlord Dienekes10/30/2018, 1:21:58 PM10 votes

Of recent champions, including reworks. Well, it's always hard to try and force the D&D alignment to fit with a setting that was never designed to be based around alignment.

But, I can think of 2 recent-ish reworks that are pretty lawful good in my mind. Yorick and Irelia. Both have strong personal codes, they both serve some form of civilization, and have a stringent and focused methodology to their actions.

If we're just going by new releases though. Yeah, I can't see any for awhile. Camille's lawful neutral. Braum is neutral good. Azir, maybe? He's an interesting case, since during his original lifetime he was a progressive force to make the law of his land more good. But since his resurrection is just kinda messing things up with his only clear goal restarting his empire, in a way that probably wouldn't be seen as lawful or good.

ModKnightsKemplar10/30/2018, 2:48:26 PM9 votes

Not trying to be an ass, but I would argue we already have champions that come close to those archetypes. Riot has said in the past that they'd rather not do wholesale lifts of D&D concepts for this game, as that would compromise the unique narrative that League has going on. Here are the ones that look, to me, like they pretty much satisfy your proposals:

Self righteous peon of law - Garen Lucian Prudent but kind white mage - Soraka Sona Holy paladin in armor - Braum Leona Taric

And that's as close as I think we need to get. If we have a literal holy paladin, that's now gonna step on the thematic areas of Taric, Leona, and possibly Garen, at least. If they make a holy assassin dedicated to eradicating undead, that's gonna swallow up Lucian's space. I don't see how a white mage can be introduced that doesn't make Soraka feel redundant. Etc.

DoomRPG10/30/2018, 1:55:25 PM4 votes

I concur to an extent. I personally feel like modern culture is too obsessed with darker themes, whilst it's alright to have edge in a story. I feel that optimism and full on good guys aren't receiving any representation in the slightest.

Like seriously the last 100% good guy champion to be released without any tragedy or drama or anything. Was release Jayce who was an homage to comic book superheroes. (Compare Defender of Tomorrow. To Superman's Man of Tomorrow) With rework Galio being the most recent, and rework poppy behind him.

Pandemic Punch10/30/2018, 2:19:18 PM3 votes

Xayah isn't edgy to me. Neither is Zoe, Rakan, Ornn, Camille, Ivern, Kled, Taliyah, Illaoi, or Tahm Kench.

You included Aatrox which is pretty old at this point. Are you counting reworks also? Because one of the most recent reworks is Nunu.

boricCentaur110/30/2018, 12:35:22 PM3 votes

Shen , Caitlyn , , Lucian , Ivern , Camille , Garen probably others but I agree I want more good champions and less edgy champions. o wait Kled he will protect his land.

Somber Rites10/31/2018, 12:53:23 AM2 votes

I'm not sure I'd call Yorick "edgy" or "chaotic". Have you read his lore, or listened to his lines? He's about as good as Runeterra gets. Ryze being the only person I can think of who is more "good" than Yorick.

His only purpose in his reluctantly immortal life is to kill Mordekaiser, and end the curse of the isles to save Runeterra from 2 of it's 3 greatest threats. (The other being the Void.) He could have just given in forever ago and died. But through force of will, and his own morals he refuses to give up, or die until he's put the isles to rest.

What about that doesn't scream "hero"?

I mean sure, he's using the curse to end the curse, but he's not chaotic or edgy, he's just scarred and driven.

Also, I'd say Lawful-good champs SHOULDN'T be a thing. You can be a goody-two-shoes, but no actual person is lawful good 100% of the time. If you want a complex and compelling character, you need to write them like an actual person.

This isn't required all the time, but unless you're writing a character to be an unrepentant killer Kayn or an ancient evil looking to conquer the world Mordekaiser , it's best to write the character like a person.

Think of it like this, who is easier to relate to? Superman, or Batman? Iron Man, or Spiderman?

Making someone human makes them relatable. Making someone relatable makes people care about them, makes people get invested.

Lawful Good and Chaotic Evil characters are not relatable. Evil characters are at least entertaining to watch, while no one cares about a goodie-two-shoes saving cats and walking old ladies across the street.

Emo Twink10/31/2018, 10:28:49 AM2 votes

Praying the new flower mage is a lawful good person, or neutral good at least. These characters can be done super well but league just sucks at trying it out.

AXayahAccount10/31/2018, 7:21:18 PM2 votes

Not sure Kalista is Chaotic. Nor is she "evil" Neutral at best. Undead does not = evil. Just saying, for example a zombie can't be evil... it isn't smart enough to choose what it is so it is most likely neutral, and if they have to obey orders then they're lawful.

Hell Kalista might be Lawful Good because she takes other people who have been betrayed, ties them to a contract with her and evokes revenge for them. Then once the contract is fulfilled let's the soul go free and restarts the cycle.