Does exhaust reduce true damage?

Rivuo·Jan 27, 2017·18 votes·11,510 views

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Deep Terror NamiJan 27, 20178 votes

Nothing does, which is what defines True damage. There's no need to look up exceptions to the rule, there are none. It can be prevented by immunity to damage, sure, but not reduced.

Asayake 5150glowJan 27, 20171 votes

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Nothing does, which is what defines True damage. There's no need to look up exceptions to the rule, there are none. It can be prevented by immunity to damage, sure, but not reduced.

Nothing amplifies it either, also.

A Vel Koz MainJan 27, 20171 votes

Fiora/Gangplank/Camille would like a word with you. On a side note, Camille will drop as soon as the popularity goes down because % damage is even worse than true damage.

DolasaurJan 27, 20171 votes

It was an important point to make. In the past, certain percent damage boosts would also apply to true damage- think old Poppy ult. (Not that Poppy had much true damage outside of red buff, but still.) Heck, I think scuttle crab might still amplify true damage while affected by hard CC.

DracocrashJan 28, 20171 votes

nope! I beleive being cc'd reduces scuttle crabs resistances, which makes it take more damage. True damage would be unaffected by this.

DolasaurJan 28, 20171 votes

Hard CC does reduce the resistances permanently. But it also amplifies damage taken while the CC is active. It definitely amplifies physical and magical damage. I'm just not sure about true damage.

Or... I wasn't! Until I just double checked:

"While Rift Scuttler is under the effect of crowd control that prevents her movement, she receives 25% extra damage from all sources, including true damage. " - http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Scuttle_Crab

DracocrashJan 28, 20171 votes

oh! you learn something new everyday~

Asayake 5150glowJan 28, 20171 votes

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Fiora/Gangplank/Camille would like a word with you. On a side note, Camille will drop as soon as the popularity goes down because % damage is even worse than true damage.

I meant amplified by %damage increasing things, like, say, Battle Trance or Merciless.

SzGamer227Jan 28, 20171 votes

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Fiora/Gangplank/Camille would like a word with you.

cough Darius cough

I am KngOct 22, 20182 votes

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Nothing does, which is what defines True damage. There's no need to look up exceptions to the rule, there are none. It can be prevented by immunity to damage, sure, but not reduced.

funny cause ninjatabis reduces damage form all true damage inflicted by auto attacks (YI e, cam q i think and am not sure about vayne as it doesnt have much to do wiht her autos)

Ok sure but whyJan 27, 20175 votes

Darius i bet u want that don't u

Oh, come on, guys. Don't downvote him; it was only a question.

Doctor JarvisJan 27, 20173 votes

My ZiwiJan 27, 20172 votes

What do you think "true" damage stands for lul

TormentulaJan 27, 20171 votes

No, it reduces movements speed and attack speed, additionally it reduced armor and magic resist.

Since true damage ignores armor and magic resist, it does not affect it from the attackers side, or the defenders side.

Professor WardJan 27, 20171 votes

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No, it reduces movements speed and attack speed, additionally it reduced armor and magic resist.

Since true damage ignores armor and magic resist, it does not affect it from the attackers side, or the defenders side. it also lowers damage by 40% not true damage though

The tooltip needs to be revised to 40% attack and magic damage

Tychusfindlay919Jan 27, 20171 votes

Darius Nope, my noxian rod is too big for something petty like exhaust to make my dunk weak Darius

StoryDuckJan 27, 20171 votes

No, which is stupid.

TequilaZombieJan 28, 20171 votes

Why is it stupid? True Damage can't be amplified by any means, so it kinda makes sense that it can't be reduced as well.

StoryDuckJan 28, 20173 votes

There are currently only 2 sources of debuffing the enemy's damage in LOL. Sona and Exhaust. They are both targeted to one champion.

Thematically this is supposed to represent a champion being weakened. True Damage is a representation of a champion hitting between/through armor and defense (sometimes physical, sometimes magical) to strike as if they were naked. If you weaken the source they will hit less hard. It will still hurt/deal damage but not as much because they would be hitting with x% less force.

Mechanically, debuffing damage is changing the targets damage output so that their abilities and attacks deal x% less damage. This damage would still be true but it would be reduced. True damage deals full damage through armor, DR, MR because it ignores the targets defense but Exhaust isn't the target's defense it is the weakening of damage. Exhaust isn't a buff saying "Grant 30% damage reduction to an ally" Its saying reduce the damage of the enemy. True damage just has an extra added on immunity to debuffing is all. I suspect it was just easier to program because there are only two ways to debuff damage.

DanjengJan 28, 20172 votes

Urgot is crying in his corner because nobody remembers him. Passive- Zaun-Touched Bolt Augmenter: Urgot's basic attacks and Acid Hunter reduce the damage dealt by his target by 15% for 2.5 seconds.

I hope you're happy. At least he'll be able to stack up item 3004 with the tears he shed.

StoryDuckJan 28, 20171 votes

No one loves you Urgot. Go hang out with Amumu. :P

EleshakaiOct 22, 20182 votes

I wish I could forget Urgot :(

DanjengOct 22, 20181 votes

RIP Urgod 2010 - 2017.

A DoorknobJan 28, 20171 votes

Exhaust is a 'targeted' Summoner spell, which slows Movement Speed and reduces all physical and magic damage dealt by 30%. It also reduces Attack Speed by 50%

ProfirixJan 28, 20171 votes

True damage is designed to be unaffected by damage reduction of any type. Thats why it's called 'true' damage. It is also unaffected by damage amplification.