Why don't all Attack Modifier skills say if they work on turrets or not?

GhostOfShrimpmas·Jun 3, 2015·44 votes·1,709 views

Most on-next-hit abilities, like Siphoning Strike , Ki Strike , and Crippling Strike do affect turrets.

Some, like Savagery , Empower , and Ruthless Predator , do not.

The only way to figure out which do and which don't is to check the wiki, or attack a turret and pay close attention. Why is it not just simply stated in the tooltip of these abilities whether or not they affect turrets? There's no reason not to make the ability's capabilities clear from reading the tooltip.

18 Comments

SEKAIJun 3, 20157 votes

Because AA mods by definition, should work on turrets.

It's just that Riot normally finds the cheap ways out when balancing things and say "yer these are exceptions, done", which is stupid and lazy.

Bouffon dAnglaisJun 3, 20157 votes

The question in this thread wasn't "why dont all AA modifiers work on turret" but rather "why doesnt the tooltip mention if it works on turrets".

Jeddy017Jun 3, 20154 votes

"This ability doesn't work on turrets,inhibitors or the nexus."

"This ability works on turrets,but not inhibitors or the nexus."

"This works on all structures."

I mean these do seem simple to add.

Chaotic ReksJun 3, 20151 votes

Kassadin item 3070

BorblandJun 3, 20154 votes

Savagery used to work on towers, but since Rengar could 2 shot a tower they nerfed that. (Even if they just could reduce the damage taken to turret instead of doing some stupid exception)

I guess it's similar for the other guys.

LissamaJun 3, 20151 votes

2 shot a tower? QQ Nasus

Z StatisticJun 3, 20153 votes

Nasus needs to stacks his Q first. Rengar could delete a turret with 1 item faster than Trundle or Yi, and both of those guys delete turrets faster than Nasus even with 400 stacks.

GaleWinUnleashedJun 3, 20153 votes

Savagery and Empower were specifically changed so as not to affect turrets, because Rengar and Jax were taking turrets far too quickly.

This may also explain some of the other cases, but there are varying reasons for such differences in behavior between similar abilities.

GhostOfShrimpmasJun 3, 20152 votes

{quoted}

Savagery and Empower were specifically changed so as not to affect turrets, because Rengar and Jax were taking turrets far too quickly.

This may also explain some of the other cases, but there are varying reasons for such differences in behavior between similar abilities.

Yes, I know that those used to but no longer do. Those are the worst offenders, actually, since if someone took a break from playing when that change happened or didn't want to slog through a ton of patch notes, they'd come to the game with literally no indication that the abilities no longer did what they used to.

I'm not necessarily saying that they should either all hit towers or none should. There's balancing reasons for each. What I want is for abilities to say what they can hit. All targeted abilities and skillshots do this. Why shouldn't attack modifiers?

YOU BEEN WARNEDJun 3, 20151 votes

???? Renekton Poppy Mordekaiser ????

Stiv1234Jun 3, 20152 votes

because Rengar and Jax were taking turrets far too quickly.

AD Malzahar plis

MyrddinJun 3, 20151 votes

{quoted}

because Rengar and Jax were taking turrets far too quickly.

Fiora

Meep ManJun 3, 20152 votes

{quoted}

Did you mean Trundle ?

The SoulforgedJun 3, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Savagery and Empower were specifically changed so as not to affect turrets, because Rengar and Jax were taking turrets far too quickly.

This may also explain some of the other cases, but there are varying reasons for such differences in behavior between similar abilities.

Cough~~Nasus~~Cough