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My prediction , Fiora going to get buff.

Dremiist··5 votes·2,361 views

Ever wonder why we never got a Fiora spotlight but gankplank did?

here's why: http://i.imgur.com/2p2e85L.jpg

buff suggestion if i may:

http://imgur.com/a/18TAG

**also why mordekaiser,darius and garen have their attack increased to : 200/175/175 respectively but not fiora? also now that you removed the passive bonus AD from her W it's much more harder to last hit and that attack damage per level is mediocre even after the PBE buff you did recently it's still mediocre.

UPVOTE FOR FIORA BUFF!

they might buff her at some point fastest way would be someone to pick fiora in LCS and fail incredibly hard.

let's take a look at her heal:

80 / 110 / 140 (+ 60% Bonus AD) over 5 second 400/550/700 (+300% Bonus AD) total

this block every possible buff on fiora first it's too strong on paper but weak in reality, took me 10 attempt to hit the 4 spot i never did but my mate killed that champion and that was it.

attempt: 4 spot 0/10 heal 1/10

it's literally impossible to use on champion with mobility or CC which count 70% of the champion released until today.

seriously this idea : THROW IT UP!!!

http://i.imgur.com/3XJlGKR.gif

http://media.giphy.com/media/12lPDSEeDIIR0I/giphy.gif

gut it down even janna or soraka is nowhere near that's literally the strongest and hardest AoE heal to proc

she's not a mage or a healer if anything a support this my friend does not fit her at all.

she's mobile gut the heal make it mobile, and make it reduce all incoming damage by 25%.

could also go the old guinsoo way, make the ult reduce all of her ability cooldown.

other stuff you could do: make tiamat and ravenous hydra proc her passive,make your team able to hit your ultimate passive or make her immune to slows, I was so sad yi was trying to hit the passive for me and i was there unable to chase,slowed down and useless.

such playstyle such gameplay coming from a main fiora player:

I decided to watch plat,diamond,master,challenger gameplay and here's what i found : 90% of the game 90% of the time fiora was useless and weak getting owned constantly. 10% she got carried did nothing took damage to the face and that was it.

http://i.imgur.com/M6cmywo.png http://i.imgur.com/xJX8G2O.png

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3g1uz6/why_the_new_fiora_seems_strong_but_really_isnt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22a39p/how_fiora_should_work_from_the_point_of_view_of_a/

24 Comments

Critmaster Garen2 votes

people have no idea what to build on her yet.

bork sucks on her because she barely uses attack speed anymore. they think "omg, q applies on hit effects" and think they have to build on hit effects on her. and a hydra rush is still mandatory, because she has 0 waveclear on her own. and she needs it to be able to trade in enemy creepwaves, when moving around her target.

cdr boots are a good idea imo, shes scales very well with the stat. especially early on it makes a large difference.

Dremiist2 votes

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people have no idea what to build on her yet.

bork sucks on her because she barely uses attack speed anymore. they think "omg, q applies on hit effects" and think they have to build on hit effects on her. and a hydra rush is still mandatory, because she has 0 waveclear on her own. and she needs it to be able to trade in enemy creepwaves, when moving around her target.

cdr boots are a good idea imo, shes scales very well with the stat. especially early on it makes a large difference.

SHE WAS MY MAIN FOR 3 YEAR STRAIGHT, PLAYED HER 1 MONTH STRAIGHT ON PBE I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY HER!!!!

everyone is happy that fiora got gutted and everyone mostly come here to see her fail and forgotten, there isn't a single fiora main in this thread that disagree with me give me proof prove me proof because right now you just prove nothing other than your stupid mouth talking shit for nothing. now you just got me mad AF.

Critmaster Garen5 votes

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YEAH I'VE BEEN PLAYING HER FOR 3 YEAR , AND 1 MONTH IN IDEA I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY HER!!!!

its a new kit. and its been released for 2 days. you didnt play 300 games with this fiora, you played 1.

so no, you dont know shit. you think ill be an absolute expert at the new garen when hes released? fuck no, it will time to figure out the new build pathes, item synergies and how to play around all these changes until i feel as comfortable with him as i do now.

you judged the new fiora after one game. and the difference is even larger between her old and new kit with her.

Dremiist1 votes

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Critmaster Garen2 votes

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DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT PBE IS?

do you know the average player skill on the pbe? you still cant have played her that much.

and ive seen her played on the pbe and most of the time she did fine.

Wînter Fox1 votes

It's not really about the attack speed. It's the current health on hit. With item 3153 every time you hit a vital you hit for both current health and max health damage. That's devastating, especially against tanky champions which is what you'll be fighting 98% of the time. And this is not even mentioning Botrk's Active which provides the perfect synergy with her ult and allows her get all four vitals.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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It's not really about the attack speed. It's the current health on hit. With item 3153 every time you hit a vital you hit for both current health and max health damage. That's devastating, especially against tanky champions which is what you'll be fighting 98% of the time. And this is not even mentioning Botrk's Active which provides the perfect synergy with her ult and allows her get all four vitals.

since the passive scales with ad, youre hitting for current health in physical damage exchange for less max health % true damage...

bork doesnt have much ad compared to a bloodthirster. not to mention the much higher lifesteal on the bt lets you duel your target over a longer duration in the first place, and gets pretty crazy with hydra.

and again. youre also missing out on higher crits on the e.

the new fiora isnt really built to exchange auto attacks over a long duration, but rather to hit and run.

Wînter Fox1 votes

There are item slots to make up for it. Personally I would build item 3072 item 3153 together

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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There are item slots to make up for it. Personally I would build item 3072 item 3153 together

you still need hydra, or you gonna have severe problems with minions and waveclearing or pushing in lane.

ive seen people build hydra and bt together on the pbe and they were able to carry. ive seen people build bork on her and every time they looked underwhelming and failed.

in fact a tiamat rush has become standart on her pretty quickly.

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

The new Fiora can't carry even when she is ahead... 0/7 Fiora :)

AdanChristo2 votes

i completely agree they need to fix fioras ULT, HER ULT IS THE PROBLEM, it's unusable, you need faker skills to pull her ult off, i liked her previous ult

Beoridas2 votes

i may get downvoted for this. but ive played against her, ive seen tons of streamer ex pros and current pros completly destroy everyone with her. Ive seen an irelia get crushed hard..im pretty sure there is going to be lots of stats showing that shes very strong. phreak is an adc, jungle main anyway

Dremiist2 votes

i wanna play her but too scared to play her in ranked how about you give us a demonstration of skills buddy or maybe you're just a good talker talk to talk right?

Dremiist2 votes

SPREAD THE WORLD!!!!!

FatesDefiler1 votes

giver her some barrel's. balanced right out. barrels OP. every other character now has specific barrel interaction. something about table's and drinking. scrub.

i just laned as plank against swain and was thinking the whole time 'wow, this rework is so amazing and strategically diversive'. 'this is the most fun i've ever had playing as plank'.

and so I came to the realization that every character should now have barrel form. fiora's new ult: she turns into a barrel. rolls over 3 targets dealing reduced percentage true health damage, and then explodes, turning her into a bush for the next 25 seconds. mmm, fiora bush.... let that sink in for a minute.

Vistha Kai1 votes

With this kind of build she was lucky to end the game with only 7 deaths and one assist.

Dremiist1 votes

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Vistha Kai1 votes

I totally agree.

What? http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/5/59/Stare-What-GIF.gif

FatesDefiler1 votes

i totally won that lane, btw. got the first kill on him and he ran from me from then onto the mid game. we probably could have snowballed to win but our noc jungler built mobility like a pro and fed hard and our janna built no sightstone or health or resistance while our ashe went 1/12. but if it weren't for that AND the terrible plank remake we'da won, np.

LilxPaprika1 votes

haha phreakazoid got rekted.
but really though, I like her kit there's just one thing that i think is off.. mentioned here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/11U6hhYX-fiora-e-crit-interaction

i like his build though, I think botrk will make sense on her seeing as q applies on hit effects. triforce wouldn't be bad idea either over ghostblade for now. (aka kind of like jax)

for now however i think building her more like riven is better since crits could overlap with crits from her kit. only time it might make sense is to get IE with it.

i also think item 3156 would be good buy on her.

Critmaster Garen3 votes

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haha phreakazoid got rekted.
but really though, I like her kit there's just one thing that i think is off.. mentioned here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/11U6hhYX-fiora-e-crit-interaction

i like his build though, I think botrk will make sense on her seeing as q applies on hit effects. same for triforce sheen. for now however i think building her more like riven is better since crits could overlap with crits from her kit. only time it might make sense is to get IE with it.

youre putting too much importance on the q being able to apply on hit effects.

you know what her strongest on hit effect is? her passive. a bloodthirster is better on her than bork for multiple reasons. shield, sustain, raw ad for the passive and the crit on her e. something people tend to forget. you get a free critical strike without building any crit chance. and the ability is on a 3 second cooldown late.

the hydra + bloodthirster combination is stronger than what you could ever get out of bork.

the new fiora doesnt scale very well with attack speed. so investing a lot of gold into an attack speed item just for 1 proc every 2.6 seconds on the q (thats lategame with max cdr) seems mostly like a waste.

LilxPaprika2 votes

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youre putting too much importance on the q being able to apply on hit effects.

you know what her strongest on hit effect is? her passive. a bloodthirster is better on her than bork for multiple reasons. shield, sustain, raw ad for the passive and the crit on her e. something people tend to forget. you get a free critical strike without building any crit chance. and the ability is on a 3 second cooldown late.

hence my suggestion. so you can still crit and not have it overlap with actual crits. in the event you wish to play her more attack speed oriented instead of cdr. I like to have the option. i totally agree that is my first instinct of building her your way stacking ad with sustain. but a true swordsman duelist shouldn't be thaaat incentivized to go full cdr imo (to proc more e crits). kind of like yasuo doesn't need cdr, i think fiora should be closer to him. we have ample cdr melee champions already. and fiora's character theme is all about using her swords/ not so much casting spells. (granted her spells make use of her sword).

while i don't think she shouldn't build cdr like yasuo should never build it, i don't think she should be discouraged from going auto attack heavy route if she so chose. her ultimate benefits a lot from attack speed too to get vitals off. (unless you can pick off a low champion and kill it)

anyways i think something a long the lines of 15% to 25% cdr the rest AD/as would be healthy on her. or go either extreme if you so chose only stacking cdr or as. atm its mostly leaning towards stacking cdr.

i'm just not a fan of having a champion being too locked into having to build a certain way. only divers in how much of either armor or mr you get.

52426480_DEL1 votes

I don't see anything wrong with your initial build except then you should be getting tank items instead of BT. You just played like dookey.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

she used to counter gp :/ but she´s quite decent atm.

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