When can we rebuff tank items?

GigglesO·Sep 6, 2017·9 votes·882 views

I mean either that or can we make them actually efficient to purchase?

Infinity Edge is 95.59% gold efficient without its passive Zhonya's Hourglass is 92.73% gold efficient without its active. Thornmail is 74.71% gold efficient without its passives Mortal Reminder is gold efficient without its Executioner passive, against targets with at least 62 bonus armor.

So You are telling me that mortal reminder can be efficient just because the enemy has 1 armor item... Meanwhile thornmail is 74% gold efficient and has only 1 second of a slow and 1 second of greivious wounds. Come on riot, you know there is an itemization issue.

21 Comments

EedatSep 6, 20175 votes

The rationale was that the removed power from itemization was returned via buffs to the tank champions themselves. This prevents those annoying "tank" builds from being effective (Yas, Fizz, Ekko,etc). And it worked as there are a lot of strong tanks right now

However, those tanks who didn't get direct buffs along with a ton of other classes like that built hybrid like divers, fighters, skirmishers, etc got left to rot.

So now we're in a spot where if they buff tank itemization back, the tanks that are strong right now will be laughably overtuned.

Pretty shitty spot

Mens Hair ClubSep 6, 20171 votes

If they followed through on the base stats buffs this probably wouldn't be a problem

GigglesOSep 6, 20172 votes

But they don't care about 50% or more of their champions.

Mens Hair ClubSep 6, 20171 votes

they're just annoyingly slow to act

we'll have to wait probably until worlds is over at the soonest, more likely after preseason before we see any meaningful buffs for struggling fighters

Soraka is SO HOTSep 6, 20171 votes

{quoted}

The rationale was that the removed power from itemization was returned via buffs to the tank champions themselves. This prevents those annoying "tank" builds from being effective (Yas, Fizz, Ekko,etc). And it worked as there ~~are a lot of strong tanks right now~~ is a small percentage of strong tanks out of the entire tank champion pool as a result of direct changes to those tanks' kits - Riot didn't tune all tanks, so any buff to itemization will make their meta faves OP while bringing the other tanks back into modest viability.

FTFY! [poppy-wink]

EedatSep 6, 20172 votes

You didnt fix anything. You just didnt read the whole post

Soraka is SO HOTSep 6, 20171 votes

I read it, just a joke and restating what you've said.

Oh wait, this is Gameplay. Sorry, I'll see my way out... [cass-cry]

EedatSep 6, 20172 votes

just a joke

No jokes allowed on Gameplay

Mens Hair ClubSep 6, 20173 votes

when tanks aren't innately tanky and stoneplate gets nerfed

LankPantsSep 6, 20173 votes

When we remove Gargoyle from the game. That item shouldn't exist anyway.

GlîtchySep 6, 20172 votes

When tank Fizz and Akali can't happen

TWITCHTV ERONATESep 6, 20172 votes

how about we nerf adc itemisation (mostly shiv and raise ie gold cost) and keep tanks as they are right now instead of making them even more obnoxious than they currently are

chipndip1Sep 6, 20171 votes

"When can we make hyper carry marksmen EVEN MORE MANDATORY THAN THEY ARE NOW?"

KloqdqSep 6, 20171 votes

I mean my fix was always just focus on % scaling for tank items to allow people that want to build tanky to get tanky while keeping the people that aren't building it to only be sort of tanky. When tank items are good, we get Tank Ekko but when they are weak, tanks just go to support items because they are better. So shifting the power to % allows tanks to benefit more from tank items and scale better but it keeps fighters and divers and such more in line with only being somewhat tanky.

ganggoinkSep 7, 20171 votes

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this guy asks for tank item buffs during tank meta ahahahhaah

GigglesOSep 7, 20171 votes

Legit, how many tanks do you see? And is it a function of MMR? Because the lower MMR's see more tanks because they don't build greivious wounds or last wisperor BC and crew.

ganggoinkSep 7, 20171 votes

Ahahahahahahahahaha ezreal jungle is meta ahahahahahahahaha

I see cho, Gragas, maokai, galio being op, zac still annoying as fuck. Rammus is kinda op too atm and sejuani is really good too.

GigglesOSep 7, 20171 votes

So that is why ezreal jungle is meta right now...

RexxieeSep 7, 20171 votes

Considering tanks are one of the strongest classes in the game now, probably never.

RainfallSep 7, 20171 votes

tank became the go to class for bad players,whether you win or lose lane is irrelevant because youre building weak items that fall off lategame.folks you either jump from a sinking ship or you sink with it.

GigglesOSep 7, 20171 votes

oh yea sure thing. I give you a factual statement about gold efficiency, and you start talking our your ass.