Urgot

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Been playing Urgot for a bit lately, and think some tweaks would help him out a bit. I am not great at explaining things so I am just going to say in short what I think could help the poor man crab.

1.His passive, Zaun-Touched Bolt Augmenter, just does not feel like it does anything, its really only useful in 1v1 scenarios but that usually occurs in laning phase and if you split push, witch you should not do as Urgot, and it doesn't really do much in team fights. I do not know what you could do that would fit Urgot but this passive needs to be replaced or reworked badly, in my opinion.

  1. Terror Capacitor, the shield, should scale with AD or bonus AD, there really is no item Urgot want's to build that has AP so why even have an AP scaling? Maybe even give a small movement speed increase?

  2. Noxian Corrosive Charge could benefit from either a small range increase or a small radius increase of the AOE. It just seems like you are always a tad too close to the enemy when you go to use it.

  3. Hyper-Kinetic Position Reverser, his ultimate, could either use a small range increase, small fear radius increase. or even sending some of the damage dealt to Urgot to his target. The ult is pretty good when the opponent does not respect its potential, but with that its feels meh in teamfights, even with the damage reduction I seem to get blown up easily even when building bruiser-like. Fear buff would give it slightly better utility, range buff would give it better pick potential, and adding some sort of damage transfer would create a situation where the enemy would have to choose to focus you or not.

  4. Honestly even just a small buff to his movement speed would be great for Urgot, he seems so slow even with boots. Just that extra bit of kite potential would be good on him, he does have the slow from the shield, but that can be removed by removing his shield, which means the slow is as reliable as long as the shield is up.

As far as his Q, Acid Hunter, goes I feel its fine the way it is, and do not see any real need to change anything about it.

So what do you all think bout my suggestions? Do you agree or disagree, and why?

9 Comments

LadyRenly1 votes

His passive is really good. It doesn't feel powerful unlike Malzahars passive because there isn't fancy visuals but it still works

his shield scales with bonus mana as well as AP. Used to be trinity force later on for it

only thing I dont like about the ult is the rank 1 range, it's atrocious.

FinalFlare1 votes

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His passive is really good. It doesn't feel powerful unlike Malzahars passive because there isn't fancy visuals but it still works

his shield scales with bonus mana as well as AP. Used to be trinity force later on for it

only thing I dont like about the ult is the rank 1 range, it's atrocious.

Issue with the passive is that compared to other passives it really does feel like it does little out of 1v1 situations, which in its self is generally only experienced in laning with Urgot.

And yes its scales with mana, but that in itself gates Urgot to needing mana items to make the most out of it,, Tri Force,sadly, has not had AP for a long time since the Sheen changes that removed AP from it. In fact the only items that have AD and Mana or Mana Regen are Manamune, Tri Force, and Essence Reaver.

His ult is pretty good In the long run, but I still feel it needs a slight boost.

It a fact that Urgot is one of the least played champions, and desperately needs attention. I am just trying to suggest way's to bump him up to par with other champions.

Death by Glamour1 votes

Everything you list as a problem is works fine but it is hampered by being an early game lane bully with an extremely expensive buildpath which requires you to stack a manamune

FinalFlare1 votes

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Everything you list as a problem is works fine but it is hampered by being an early game lane bully with an extremely expensive buildpath which requires you to stack a manamune

Honestly, him being a lane bully is not that bad, especially if you make the changes to scale with the rank of the scale. urgots problem is that he drops off fast after laning is done.

DeathBurst1 votes

Ok, don't take it personally, but here is how I perceive your post: "I started playing this champ, and I like him but I don't win as much as I'd like, so please buff him, here's how." And more often than not, people saying that kind of things just don't know the champion very well and are not playing him optimally, and the champion doesn't really need buff.

So, I know nothing about Urgot, and I won't comment about your specific suggestions, but are you really sure your feedback is relevant to the balance team? And anyway, it's always better to state issues and let them find solutions than to directly make suggestions without explaining why they are good suggestions.

FinalFlare1 votes

I will admit, I may not have along of play time with him and could definitely be better, but the thing with Urgot is that he easy really easy to learn, most the time you just w,q,q,q or w,e,q,q,q withsome autos or e, auto, w ,q,q,q. Ult is situational.

Only reason I feel like I can make suggestions is because it doesn't take muxh to learn to a competent level, and his playerbase is so low allmost any feed back from people who understand how he plays is most likely beneficial.

I could do a much better job explaining everything, but it is hard to put my thoughts into coherent sentences. If someone happens to understand what I am trying to get at with the suggestions, I would not mind editting the OP. The general idea is to give Urgot a slightly better time versus mobile and ranged champs.

Tyrone Lannister

His passive is actually really underrated. He used to be a counter to zed way back

FinalFlare1 votes

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His passive is actually really underrated. He used to be a counter to zed way back

Maybe when QSS still cleansed Zed Ult, but since they removed that I would not dare to pick Urgot into a Zed.

Tyrone Lannister1 votes

This was during S5

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