Proof Elo Hell exists

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Proof it doesn't.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=HonorRibbon

First game: Top 4-7 15k damage Mid 3-3 as jhin 8k damage Adc 2-10 6k Support 2-4 4k

Won because I was 32-6 with 50k damage.

Second game basically the same

Third game basically the same

Fourth game,,, I'll save you the time, they are all the same.

Every game is carriable if you are better than the 9 other players.

Btw I haven't played jarvan since season 3 before this.

Damage, is irrelevant in this area, in all your games you have atleast a single person that won lane, in both my games that isn't true, and I think that to get out of bronze for example you need to be atleast Gold, To get out of silver you need to play like plat, because like you said you need to hard stomp to win games consistently, you can't be just 'better' you have to be MUCH better. Which I don't find fair personally.

You do damage, kill the people, take the objectives. They respawn, you do the damage, kill the people,mtake more objectives.

Damage is what causes opportunities for objectives. Damage is very very relevant. If you don't understand how it is, then damn, your team mates are in elo hell jist as much as you are if your definition of elo hell is having bad team mates that don't know the game enough to win.

If a single player has more damage than the rest of his team combined and more damage than any 3 of the enemy players combined, that is extremely relevant. Games are won by being carried. If you aren't easily carrying them then why don't you take advice from those that are instead of arguing with them? Why make a post then push back against all feedback? Did you just want people in here to tell you that you are the greatest and it was your team? Its not your team. I do coaching, 1 on 1, team coaching, preps for tournaments, as well as playnnin tournaments myself. I have multiple clients at the moment that I'm working with and in the past have gotten people from a tier below where you are at to a tier above in only about 6 sessions. I stream sometimes and do educational streams where I literally hard stomo all my games and teach the viewers exactly what I am doing and going to do in order to hard carry my team. You doing the same?

Yep.

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>"proof that elo hell exists" >provides a small amount of anecdotal evidence

How would you have me do it? Make a fucking documentary on it?

[{quoted}](name=BEST MEAT BALLS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FOtoecXZ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-27T06:17:11.691+0000)

you still have alot of deaths too so you shouldn't blame others for that.. come on . anyways good luck in your future matches

Ill admit I do have alot of deaths but that's me trying to 1 shot the carries so my team can actually fight them. But AH I realized they are all fed xD Good luck to you too. :)

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Yeah you have almost 400 ranked games this season but a sample size of 2 where you didnt even do well yourself is proof of ELO hell lol

Then what would you prefer me do?

[{quoted}](name=The Nocturne God,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FOtoecXZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-27T06:01:13.446+0000)

Damage is irrelevant? Really? When I have more than my 4 team mates combined, that is irrelevant? Every game I had someone win lane? You even look at the games or know how to read game stats yet? At least 1 of those games I had multiple afk tram mates trying to make me lose because I said I was doing b5 to p5 0 losses.

It's not about damage, its about objectives, team fighting and warding, CS'ing, and avoiding death, that leads them to be able to deal damage, my team clearly can't do any of that.

Poppy support works great against engage / kill lanes.

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ELO hell is an excuse people make so that they don't have to accept that they might need to work harder if they want to climb.

Nothing you can do about your teammates. And the only common thread in all of your games is you. Focus on improving yourself, climbing will come naturally after that.

SImply you can't 1v5 LITERALLY anymore, if you are unfortunate enough to have all your laners lose, and you aren't more fed than all 5 of them, tough, you lost.