So umm...why not just rework Fiora if you think her R provides no counter-play?

5G8Nri0B54·Nov 20, 2014·1 votes·643 views

Tiamat lets her turn an already low-counterplay ability (Blade Waltz) into a high-damage area-effect low-counterplay ability.

I mean, she's a bit of a failure in more than just her low-counterplay R anyways, so why aren't you reworking her instead?

For instance, besides a sexy French accent, her sole-defining characteristic is that she fights with the most undignified and girly sword out there. Yet nothing about her kit really reflects her choice of weapon.

Her Riposte doesn't reflect what it should be. She doesn't parry. And in the end her kit could have been given to literally any sword-wielding ADC. She has a Passive that suits a bruiser or tank far more than the girliest class of swordsman, and worse, as powerful as it can be, you never even know whether it's helping her or not.

So why not just give her an entire kit overhaul than just nerfing her R?

8 Comments

Tempered SaluteNov 20, 20141 votes

'Cause the idea they were posing for her new kit was stupid. It basically just turned her 'R" into a "spam all other attacks"---the idea was that when you activate your r, your other skills have a .75 sec cds and they were to get rid of parry and and burst of speed for generic attacks. Fiora mains did not like that much. I personally like the concept of Parry and actually it's a rapier style skill--though you're suppose to use the offsword, which she has in the picture, but doesn't pull out when she parries.

1st HanarSpectreNov 20, 20141 votes

They are still planning on reworking the whole kit, they just have no idea to what.

5G8Nri0B54Nov 20, 20141 votes

The forums told me I had 1 new post...but there's two...

Anyways, since how long have they been trying to rework her? Because her lack of connection between theme and kit has been something I brought up since her release...

Of course back then people were more like...

"DUUURRRR WATEVAH, RAPIER IS A SWORD AND HER KIT HAS HER SWINGING SWORD THERE4 HER KIT FITS HER YOU NAZI MOFO"

...you know now that I think about it, we still have a lot of that at present.

ZakennayoNov 20, 20141 votes

Umm Melting a team because Tiamat would give the "full" damage of the R since it wasn't a direct hit with the R ability is OP...

And her abilities work just fine. Her damage and backdooring is insane and if the player is smart, her Q can be used to juke.

5G8Nri0B54Nov 20, 20141 votes

Thank you..........for completely missing the point.

ZakennayoNov 20, 20141 votes

Umm. Thank you for being bad at a champion that can faceroll an entire enemy team? Yeah that R hurt like hell dude. And it's basically a prolonged Yi Q. And we all know how hard that hits when he's built.

5G8Nri0B54Nov 20, 20141 votes

lol, good assumptions there bud.

You are literally the first person I've ever said this to, but...

L2READ and stop embarrassing yourself.

ZakennayoNov 20, 20141 votes

Don't see why you'd say that but okay?

My point still stands. Her nerfs were needed and her kit is valid. I can tell you now that if she gets a rework, it'll be done by the same dumbass that did Skarners.

And we all know how that ended up.