I want to talk about Malphite.

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Hello, everyone, i want to talk about Malphite.

He's a great champion: similar to Mundo in terms of tank, he just annoys people and sticks to them. Of course, then there's his ultimate: THE best initiation a tank could hope for. So strong, so simple, so deadly : a big bang, all enemies are flying in the air and you’re right on them. Ain’t no way they’re leaving without losing some bits.

Either way, i’m wondering: his kit is most certainly great, but does it fit him?

He’s a giant colossus, just look at his splash, for god’s sake! In game, you get a big disappointment: tiny little rock who throws cookies. Shouldn’t he be more...i don’t know...stunning? Earthshattering? Giant golem of doom shouldn’t only throw cookies and make little splashes. His VU will most certainly increase his size, but is that going to be enough?

I’m not exactly asking for a rework, but i just want to know it feels good to play something you expect to be a legendary rock pokemon only to realise he’s smaller than Garen and has only one knockup. I know, i know, lot of new champs have knockups, but i think i’d fit Malphite.

HIS CURRENT KIT IS GREAT AND IF IT DOESN’T CHANGE I’M FINE WITH IT. I just want to know if i’m not the only one that wouldn’t mind if Malphite got reworked into some sort of Rock Sion. New Sion feels amazing to play, but doesn’t achieve my fantasy of playing a giant golem and Malphite doesn’t help either.

For now, just make him bigger and i’ll be happy. But in the long term, would you guys prefer a VU or a bigger update? So tl;dr: does Malphite achieve the fantasy of being this giant stone golem of pure destruction, as depicted in his splashart?

EDIT: It seems you guys are fine with his kit and believe a VU could be enough bring him back and fill the fantasy of being a giant stone bro.

The5lacker's post is on the spot:

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I'm still wondering why rolling a pizza cutter at an enemy steals some of their movement speed.

Durzaka mentions:

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The only problem is his Q animation on his default skin. It is pathetic. His default skin needs a rock variation of his Glacial skin. Giant spiky rocks hitting the enemy isntead of the cheese wheel of death.

I agree to this. Glacial's Q looks even better than Mecha's high-tech frizbee.

Kouga says:

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Mostly, I think a VU would fix this fine. I agree he seems a little.. puny.. to be a proper Rock Hulk. I agree that he should be able to look Sion in the eyes. More than height, though, I think he should just be larger, like bigger around. A larger profile, more similar to Cho Gath than Sion. Big, oversized fists, craggly rock spikes on his head and shoulders, etc. And when he loses his passive shield, his size diminishes somewhat.

Particle effects though I think is what would make the difference. I think his cast times are a little fast, which makes it hard to make them look "heavy". But his Q could leave behind more of a visual trail - a line of broken rock, a fissure in the ground. It would be passable, and wouldn't affect movement over it (it'd be a crack in the ground, not a raised ridge, so visually you could tell you can still walk over it) but that'd look more like he's actually splitting the earth. His slam should leave more visual cracks in the ground, and his ult should leave a crater the size of the AoE impact.

So mostly I think it'd just be a VU, I don't think his kit needs any major tweaks.

The input of a new player, Red Frostraven:

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The look of the pizza wheel made me choose Nasus over Malphite as tank, as a completely new player. It'd look so much better as a levitating rock disc with the same shape, shattering at the end of it's run.

Finaly, let's check talk about LeagueSrsBsns's post:

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so, people over at polycount doing better job than riot at everything as usual made this kewl malphite awhile back lol http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/353/c/5/malphite_lowpoly_shots_by_blindconcept-d8af2in.png

Now that is a giant rock golem. It looks amazing!

However, i have a bit of trouble seeing Malphite in this. I dig the concept for a full-on VU, but will people recognise him as Malphite? He looks pretty...alien to what Malphite is to a certain extend: his physical appearance looks so different, i don't know if i could see Malphite in it, like i still can't see Trundle in his Freljordian version(traditionnal ftw). Then again, this could be considered for a FULL Visual update.

New question based on the new picture: if this was the full VU, would you prefer it or a TU like Alistar or Kassadin, where Malphite stills looks the same as right now, but is simply with a bigger hitbox, with smoother movement and attacks with more fitting particles(no cheese wheel)?

EDIT 2: Alright, thanks everyone for helping out in this discussion. So let's make a quick recap:

• His gameplay is fine. Great kit and fun champion.
• Malphite NEEDS TO BE BIGGER. An obligation, that one. Not as big as 6 stack Cho, but bigger than Garen at least.
• Cookies aren't scary, but few would mind if the cookie being in EXTRA TEXTURE UPDATE. However, Glacial Malphite's Q(the fissure in the ground) lots good and many would like to have it in his other skins.
• Either a TU or a VU, few cares, as long as each makes Malphite look AWESOME AND BIG.
• His head is weird. Give it some buffs.

That's about it.