When the fiora remake finally happens

SlampieceHawke·Jul 17, 2015·1 votes·874 views

If it so happens that her ult is going to be gutted, then please give her some utility. I can't even begin to comprehend why people hate fiora so much when she gets ahead because she still can't do anything against all the champs that have so much mobility. We got sivirs making her whole team go vroom, monkeys disappearing for days, foxes zipping around every which way, midgets rocket flying and rocket blasting people back, ekkos and ninjas just re appearing miles away, and I could just go on and on. I may be salty right now and I should probably start playing champs that can just zip around the map. rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble.

10 Comments

Baby GhoulJul 17, 20152 votes

She is getting a bit of CC, and it will most likely be situational. From what they told us I do not expect a full kit makeover, but she does need some sort of utility to be more of a reliable teammate. They said they wanted to keep her AoE low too I believe. Being a huge ball of damage, with no escape, and no CC has it's downsides, but people rarely play on that. Her ult is fine as far as we know, and Fiora does not R to win. Fiora can easily become a bruiser with the right items, but it sacrifices so much oppressive power that other bruisers already have and with CC.

The thing that is really keeping her from becoming a god tier pick like Irelia or Riven is that she is so easy to counter and her comeback potential is almost non existent. What keeps her around tier 1 and popular in soloqueue is her ability to hyper carry a game when a little bit fed. Her snowball is fast and very unforgiving to teams who cannot work together. Irelia and Riven are OP, and are "better" picks because they still do an insane amount of damage, maybe not as much, but they have strong CC and disengage to back that up.

I think toning down her damage a smidge, and turning up her utility would be great for her. She's one of those champions that is easy to pick up if you've got quick reflexes, but harder to play consistently because it takes a lot of experience to play against counters like Pantheon Renekton Darius Singed , and even cheesy ones like Malphite . Some of her other match ups are difficult, but based on who E first. Jax and Irelia come to mind.

Either way I'm excited for this update, and I hope it's visual as well so we can get a new skin out of it!

SlampieceHawkeJul 25, 20151 votes

I too would favor less damage for some more utility. I rage because I want to like her and see her shine, but even if I snowball with her it rarely results in a win. It's as you say. If the enemy has weak team work, then of course it will be a victory for a snowballed fiora, however it appears as if I'm that fiora player who is always up against the op teamwork team. Thanks for the positive comment and bringing some of this info to light!

ShuffledPancakeJul 17, 20151 votes

She is meant to duel not penta by pressing r , r doesnt = utility.

SlampieceHawkeJul 17, 20151 votes

I get that. Which is why i'm asking for some utility to deal with all this. I don't need an r that gives me a penta w/ no skill involved. I cant even use the current one to get a penta.

ShuffledPancakeJul 17, 20151 votes

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I get that. Which is why i'm asking for some utility to deal with all this. I don't need an r that gives me a penta w/ no skill involved. I cant even use the current one to get a penta.

But your a duelist not a support - she shouldnt have cc or aoe burst she should have the highest single target ad burst-

SlampieceHawkeJul 17, 20151 votes

Is irelia not a duelist who has cc? Riven also has cc and aoe burst. I thought she was a duelist.

ShuffledPancakeJul 17, 20151 votes

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Is irelia not a duelist who has cc? Riven also has cc and aoe burst. I thought she was a duelist.

They said they want her to be like a fencer - nuff said

Angelofchaos16xJul 17, 20151 votes

It the comment below you tried to compare Irelia and Riven to Fiora, and that is where you can't. While they may all be duelists, Irelia and Riven are bruisers, meaning that they have some sort of CC, but have less DPS ( Compared to assassin duelists {Enter Fiora, Master Yi, Trynda} unless very fed. Fiora has no CC, but a massive amount of DPS, it mean come on , she has a 120% attack speed bonus on her E and gets free AD on her W. I play Fiora, and while she is not op ( She does punish the enemy team if they are a couple of potatoes) if they give her any sort of CC she will become op.

SlampieceHawkeJul 25, 20151 votes

I agree with that last statement. Which is why I would favor less dmg for a little more utility. Having all the eggs in one basket (attack dmg burst) just doesn't agree with me. I rarely face a team that doesn't know how to handle the snowballed fiora. She's quite predictable and only has one tactic. Pick what you think is the most opportune time to enter a team fight and hope nobody has saved their hardest CC, uses invulnerability spells or items to negate your ult damage. Now that I think about it I hate fio's ult. So many things can be done to negate it's effectiveness. I'd rather have it be some mix of steroid and utility. What do you think?

VeraskaJul 17, 20151 votes

Meddler said she's gaining some "situational cc" in her update. No clue what that means but I'm guessing her rapost will stun now instead of reflect damage.