Yummi just feels bad

Icefoxemily·Jun 7, 2019·2 votes·1,522 views

I just don't get the point of Yummi. Its like playing sona but a horrible version of her. It feels like its for the support that wants to be like "look at all my assists and low deaths. Its all my ADCs fault" But in reality bot becomes a 2v1 for the most part and she does next to nothing for her ADC. A root ult is just god awful in the bottom lane when it takes multiple hits and doesn't stop the enemy ADC from still autoing down your carry. So it just feels pathetic in all honesty. And I think her winrate in ever rating proves that.

It feels like the almost wanted to make an Abatather style champion for Heroes of the Storm but forgot that the hat is bad and the power from an attachment character comes from giving them more to do. Creating creatures on the map to push and exude pressure. Yummi has all the down sides of being terrible and none of the upside of map pressure.

23 Comments

RagnaveilJun 7, 20193 votes

So you are saying the Queen of Poke is bad.

IcefoxemilyJun 7, 20191 votes

I mean her winrate agrees. Shes at a 45% across all ratings. She can be the queen of poke but shes still really bad statistically.

RagnaveilJun 7, 20193 votes

Winrate doesnt mean she's weak. Look at Ryze. Akali.

Malix FarwinJun 8, 20191 votes

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I mean her winrate agrees. Shes at a 45% across all ratings. She can be the queen of poke but shes still really bad statistically.

A its 46% and B. 46% 3 and a half weeks in is not bad at all. Her Delta is one of the highest in the game right now.

Yuumi will expose however if you are a bad ADC so thats why people typically try to say "she sucks" but when i typically play her i see the following:

ADC constantly caught out We are harassing them and have a solid lane advantage only to see lvl3-4 dives hooked MULTIPLE TIMES(Yuumi can save you from hooks by double procing shield or even eating one but theres a limit. With any other support you are just dead off the first one). Terrible positioning Does not engage on ganks.

The last one really annoys me because ill see our jg coming and instead of following up they jump back to the point i literally have to detach and manually run up to the jungler so they do not die because the ADC is clueless. If it were any other support they would just be able to run up while the ADC can still be clueless on their own(ill give you that one).

If i tihnk the ADC is good ill pretty much stay attached to them the whole game and win off it, if they are bad i tend to find someone else and win with that.

letsfeedtogetherJun 7, 20192 votes

yuumi is broken my friend

IcefoxemilyJun 7, 20191 votes

Her winrate in every rating would disagree xD 45% is really really low. If in plat or higher she had better than that I'd believe you. But as it stands even in masters shes at 46%. Its just not good.

letsfeedtogetherJun 7, 20194 votes

Win rate does not mean everything. Btw shes nerfed next patch because shes broken.

MavëríckJun 7, 20192 votes

Yuumi is fantastic. It literally is the ADC's fault if they choose not to coordinate with her or learn her abilities.

Yuumi has a pretty strong damage Q with a slow letting you run down people, a 2 charge heal/speed boost that again help you survive all ins and run it down, a passive shield recharged by a quick leap off and reattach, high skill, and the ult is wonderful as long as your adc isn't stupid and walks away after you meticulously targeted it exactly where your adc should have been.

IcefoxemilyJun 7, 20191 votes

Ya but her winrate would disagree. Shes really bad in every rating. So I think people are way overestimating her.

Tahminatrix Jun 7, 20192 votes

Sona cant keep up with and make assassins / bruisers unkillable without putting herself at risk, yuumi just hops on frontline carries and helps them 1v5..

RagnaveilJun 7, 20192 votes

Bingo

SolarisCorvusJun 7, 20191 votes

Bro just had a game where this yuumi just stayed on GP and he couldnt be killed. Yuumi is fucking aids to play against. Like how the hell do you deal with whats basically a set of extra spells for a champion. All she does once late enough into the game is make sure the adc is unkillable. God i hate that fucking champion so much.

IcefoxemilyJun 7, 20191 votes

You just kill the adc. Theres really nothing she can do about it. If you pick thresh your basilcy getting a 2 for 1 every hook.

PachydermJun 7, 20191 votes

I wonder what her interaction with Kayle late game would look like....

OtterlyLostJun 7, 20191 votes

A really awful one does feel really bad. The bad yuumi's are really bad. And that makes me anxious and dread when I see one on my team. A good Yuumi, however, does feel great as the ADC; it feels like I finally have control of the lane. Its not my support. Its a strange kind of agency because you decide if your Yuumi's Q hits, you decide when to go in, you decide when to do this and that. A lot of the agency that I feel like ADCs lack is suddenly transferred to you if you have a good Yuumi.

Unfortunately, the good Yuumis are few and far between. And if they're not good, they often blame you for them not being good. :/ Which just makes playing with one exceptionally stressful. I agree that even with the good ones though, it feels a lot like you're 1v2'ing the lane if they have a hard engage support like Thresh, Pyke, Alistar, Blitz, Leona... There's actually nothing she can do to get them off her carry if they get engaged on, which they'll be fishing for engages constantly. I also feel like she isn't the best to have in heavy poke lanes; her poke is decent but her heals are miniscule unless you're super low health and her CD on it is ridiculously long. And her short AA range means that proccing her shield can be a little hazardous for her and all for naught.

Kai GuyJun 7, 20192 votes

Mostly Leo thresh and Blitz in my experience are about making shure you E adc to give them the MS to evade engage. Then detach asap to pop a shield if they get hit. Cover a retreat with R.

I dont think the difficulty is exclusive to yuumi thou as I feel like majority of all supports struggle if your adc constantly takes hooks to the face all game from Nautilus Blitzcrank Thresh

OtterlyLostJun 7, 20191 votes

Not Morgana who can black shield and snare the enemy ADC. Not Nami who can heal, speed up and bubble the enemy team ADC. Not Soraka who can insta silence both the support and ADC and give a huge heal/ms buff and slow them with her Q. Not Janna who has a shield, a knock up, and slow. And these are all things readily available to these champs pre 6.

Yuumi literally has nothing until level 6 and even then its not instantaneous.

Malix FarwinJun 8, 20191 votes

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Not Morgana who can black shield and snare the enemy ADC. Not Nami who can heal, speed up and bubble the enemy team ADC. Not Soraka who can insta silence both the support and ADC and give a huge heal/ms buff and slow them with her Q. Not Janna who has a shield, a knock up, and slow. And these are all things readily available to these champs pre 6.

Yuumi literally has nothing until level 6 and even then its not instantaneous.

You are mentioning one part of the kit of every champion and saying she cannot do that. Thats a no duh moment, theres plenty she can do that none of those champions you mentioned individually can. If you need to compare 4 champions to try and discredit her then you already lost the argument.

P.S.: She actually does have shields, speed boost, and a slow so not even your comparisons are accurate.

OtterlyLostJun 8, 20191 votes

For one, I was specifically responding to the fact that this was said:

I dont think the difficulty is exclusive to yuumi thou as I feel like majority of all supports struggle if your adc constantly takes hooks to the face all game from

To which my entire post proves that it is a difficulty exclusive to Yuumi.

For two, I know exactly what she has. I also am not disillusioning myself into believing that these are things the could effectively stop a hard engage like other people.

Malix FarwinJun 8, 20191 votes

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For one, I was specifically responding to the fact that this was said:

I dont think the difficulty is exclusive to yuumi thou as I feel like majority of all supports struggle if your adc constantly takes hooks to the face all game from

To which my entire post proves that it is a difficulty exclusive to Yuumi.

For two, I know exactly what she has. I also am not disillusioning myself into believing that these are things the could effectively stop a hard engage like other people.

Really no point in arguing with you, everyone is capable of reading her numbers properly(including riot) know how strong she is and she has nerfs pending. You and your very small minority are the only ones that think she is weak.

OtterlyLostJun 8, 20191 votes

Actually if you had any actual ability to correctly read and comprehend, you would have seen my earlier post and known I dont think she's weak. I literally said that bad Yuumi's feel really bad but praised the good ones. But you know, keep wrapping yourself up in this little delusion. A champion having weaknesses is a normal thing; I just think Yuumi's weakness to hard engage supports is extreme and an issue that should be remedied and could be if her heal was larger or had a lower CD.

But fine, keep ignoring literally everything I say to better fit your narrative. I dont think she needs nerfs though. I think she needs adjusting.

Kai GuyJun 7, 20191 votes

I had no issues getting thru Silver to Gold in Flex playing her and found her kit highly impactfully in many games.

I recommend waiting a bit more so that its not something like 99.99% of her games tracked for win % to be players 50 matches or less. Many champions have very weak win % when players who have low # games make up a majority of the tracked data.

Lots of yuumis stay attached to long. Body blocking is part of her kit you should Interrupt combos with it.

Grouchy PoroJun 8, 20191 votes

all the egirls that ae stuck in iron think shes good shes not useless but she doesnt bring anything to the game thats not already there or better her design is boring and basic her kit is extremely boring and basic she is nothing like this "colorfull mage" riot said she is