Darius at pro scene?

Dormidon·Aug 23, 2016·1 votes·619 views

I cant see anyone playing with him in pro league since Worlds 2015. What happened? Bad designed again?

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oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20162 votes

typically in pro play you see champs that are multi dimensional. a champ like darius is too easy to kite and stay away from in the pro level. he cant be a true tank or full damage. he has no gap close cc ect that is really strong. us noobs arent smart enough not to let him get passive stacks and ult us. but those great pros would know better and just counter play him. he isnt good in a lane swap 1 vs 2. top lane in worlds are likely to be DrMundo Ekko Gangplank if he dont get nerfed too hard or isnt perma ban Fiora Irelia Maokai Ryze Sion maybe but he is used alot as support in the korea/asia servers Trundle Jax maybe a Renekton Riven usually will see Rumble

DormidonAug 23, 20161 votes

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typically in pro play you see champs that are multi dimensional. a champ like darius is too easy to kite and stay away from in the pro level. he cant be a true tank or full damage. he has no gap close cc ect that is really strong. us noobs arent smart enough not to let him get passive stacks and ult us. but those great pros would know better and just counter play him. he isnt good in a lane swap 1 vs 2. top lane in worlds are likely to be if he dont get nerfed too hard or isnt perma ban maybe but he is used alot as support in the korea/asia servers maybe a usually will see

And what do you think can be done about his?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20161 votes

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And what do you think can be done about his?

well the changes to the wave with the siege minion and the 1st turret bonus is meant to try to change the 1 vs 2 lane swap. but its not enough

the reason you only see certain top laners is because of the 1 vs 2 ability, utility , team fight or split push abilities. majority of these champs have a few of these qualities then just 1. also super tanks will always be viable in team play. where they are gonna build around one player to carry and the others to set up to allow that to happen.

DormidonAug 23, 20161 votes

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well the changes to the wave with the siege minion and the 1st turret bonus is meant to try to change the 1 vs 2 lane swap. but its not enough

the reason you only see certain top laners is because of the 1 vs 2 ability, utility , team fight or split push abilities. majority of these champs have a few of these qualities then just 1. also super tanks will always be viable in team play. where they are gonna build around one player to carry and the others to set up to allow that to happen.

so does it mean darius need some utility stuff or extra tank stats?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20161 votes

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so does it mean darius need some utility stuff or extra tank stats?

well with his design and kit and him being a "juggernaut" they arent going to change it. champs like Darius Garen Skarner Mordekaiser would have to receive a complete revamp again or made so stupid strong and op that they will pick based solely because of that. they kinda did it with a bit at 1st and it was cuz they ( riot) was trying to implement a "meta shift" to allow bruiser/juggernauts to bot lane and it be ok. they also almost did it when item 3302 1st was released it was so strong that you could go a tankish support with cc like Leona and a champ like Darius bot lane with both starting and they would use the procs for each other stack so much gold it became abused due to the amount of gold both champ generated putting the traditional bot lane behind. plus the kill threat/pressure if a you got caught was insta death not extended trades with adcs autoing each other. Riot has officially stated they do not want to influence or create the " meta " directly. hence why its not a reportable offense to play off meta champs in different roles. it can be seemed as troll but as far as you are legitimately are trying to win and not trolling riot wont punish for adc bard. or jungle morgana, mid sona, top vayne ect.

the meta of solo top, jungle, solo mid, adc support bot came out the best way to use the gold resources on the map and to achieve the best power spikes for champs. top and mid level faster and usually hit power spikes early with 2 items compared to an adc who has to have 3-4 items to have a huge effect in the game. and with supports typically being utility based and getting gold income items they arent as dependent on items or lvls meaning you can literally be a support with item 3069 item 2049 item 1001 and as long as you have utility in your kit ( stuns/cc/heals/sheilds) you dont have to have big ticket items. and as a jungler that is why you see junglers in pro play that are heavy cc utility based or junglers that are really good at applying early pressure and having high damage out puts in their kits without alot of items.

also why you dont see the " farm junglers" as well like MasterYi Shyvana Udyr let alone they are too easy to beat in coordinated high level of play. that is why you always see Rumble Nidalee LeeSin RekSai Gragas Elise over and over again.