So we're buffing merc treads when Ornn gets released, right?

car4·8/7/2017, 5:22:30 PM·76 votes·3,400 views

Every champion in the game has some sort of cc, and him being able to increase the duration of being stunned, slowed, etc, is a bit fucking nuts and is going to be real annoying to play against. Are you going to buff Merc Treads back to how they were how ever long ago to compensate?

Think of Morgana Q with his Brittle ability, no thanks.

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hhaavviikk8/7/2017, 6:11:31 PM42 votes

it's not that the tenacity on merc treads is low it's that riot keeps releasing knock-ups which are not affected by tenacity...

ZyniX8/7/2017, 9:18:24 PM25 votes

Can't tell if I dc'd or got hit by morg q.

Nixtarma8/7/2017, 6:25:10 PM7 votes

I want to know how much Brittle increases CC. From the trailer, it looks like maybe 25-33%.

But yeah, you are definitely right about the CC. I just checked, and the only champions in the game with none are Corki, Ezreal, Graves, Katarina, Lucian, Master Yi, Mordekaiser, Nidalee, and Sivir.

Bârd8/8/2017, 9:33:56 AM6 votes

Brittle's extension has four restrictions, from what I can tell.

  1. It only works on immobilizing CC. This means that fears, slows, silences, and anything else that doesn't completely stop your motion won't work.
  2. Knockups can't have their durations changed (neither decreased by tenacity nor increased by brittle).
  3. Suppression only continues as long as you channel, and it wouldn't make sense for a status effect to increase your channel time, so those must be the same.
  4. Stasis probably isn't effected, since that would mean you'd be giving the enemy a longer hourglass.

This means that brittle only extends the following types of CC.

  • Stuns
  • Roots
  • Snares
  • Entanglement

The following types of CC are unaffected

  • Knockup
  • Displacement
  • Blind
  • Silence
  • Slow
  • Taunt
  • Charm
  • AS slow
  • Suppression
  • Stasis
  • Nearsight
  • Disarm
  • Polymorph
  • Fear

The only CC I'm not really sure of is suspension, since it's an airborne effect that is reduced by tenacity.

I realize that there are still a ton of champions who use these types of CC, but realize brittle only increases CC durations by 30%. For each second of duration, gain 0.3 bonus seconds.

Champions with absurd synnergy are few and far between. That said, while you don't really need them (even with moderate synnergy, it's amazing), those few champions are absolutely terrifying.

Taking their entire kits into account, these are the worst offenders off the top of my head.

Ashe +1.05 seconds Morgana +1.45 seconds Veigar +0.75 seconds Leona +0.9 seconds Gnar +0.9 seconds Maokai +1.44 seconds Sejuani +1.2 seconds

This is a very powerful mechanic, and will likely be toned down before his release or shortly thereafter.

It is, however, worth noting that Ornn himself doesn't have a single disable that has its duration increased by this.

Windoges8/8/2017, 4:29:42 AM5 votes

When Ornn gets released, Morgana's Q will be so long Leaverbuster will make me disconnect.

NCBuckets8/8/2017, 2:31:59 PM4 votes

cross map ashe arrow + brittle

LyingOnLine8/7/2017, 5:23:19 PM3 votes

Why bother? He's got two knockups anyways.

hurr durr durr let's just continue to make tenacity less and less relevant

PePsiLemoNN8/8/2017, 10:25:44 AM3 votes

Probably not , you can't assume Ornn will be in 100% of games. If he won't and we buff tenacity then it will completely fuck other champs

PaffWasTaken8/8/2017, 5:02:26 PM2 votes

I never understood why Riot keeps saying that most of the aspects of the game are unbalanceable, if they are releasing unbalaceable champs by themselves each 2-3 months Kayn Camille Jhin

Limrick8/7/2017, 10:10:16 PM2 votes

Add Weighted Boots that reduce the duration of displacements.

IceKingChernobog8/10/2017, 8:28:19 AM1 votes

oh sweet summer child.

WiegrafOfValor8/8/2017, 1:37:56 PM1 votes

We actually need +1 or 2 tenacity items with 10~15% tenacity stacking additively.

TiltyMacTiltFace8/8/2017, 7:22:12 PM1 votes

Because balancing the game around one champ works...

DaNinad8/8/2017, 10:04:47 PM1 votes

zac and leona with brittle xd

DuskDaUmbreon8/8/2017, 2:31:13 PM1 votes

He's not going to be in 100% of games (and he may be too weak on release. We're looking at what amounts to a solo lane support). You'd be making tenacity too strong in games without him.

And it'll be a roughly 1 second increase on the longest stun in the game: Ashe's ult. Every other ability will gain less from that. And it's only immobilizing CC. Tenacity affects all CC but displacement, stasis, and suppression.