"Strong in early game, Falls off in late game.Yeah"

Sona x Rubick··62 votes·3,345 views

nice description of why you introduced your shitty mastery

like ranged needed more buffs in early game, i have no words for this. If master was unplayable for melees that aren't irelia/riven, it's going to be even more unplayable

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OUCH Your first basic attack against a champion deals an additional 10 (+1 per level) damage (9 second cooldown)

49 Comments

PlanetWarwick45 votes

Gg now those shits won't runoff with 10 hp

Mystic Shovel4 votes

Underrated comment is underrated

ff4sk23 votes

Riot loves pandering to their ADC mains. Why do you think half the assassins got nerf'd into the ground?

Ackelope1 votes

why the hell would they love pandering to ADC mains? iirc over half of the champions in this game are melee, and, as evidenced here, there are lots of people that want to play them and enjoy playing them, so why do we have all of these people assuming that riot just gives stuff to adcs? it seems weird to me that this is the first conclusion people jump to.

LankPants22 votes

Even Riot can't justify their own shitty design and disgusting range bias at this point.

FCJAAAAGOOOO11 votes

I play Renekton and I've given in. I always start with item 1006 item 1006 item 1006 item 2003 and my keystone is now always Bond of Stone.

What is even the point of being melee for the first 10 minutes of the game? There's Teemo, and then there's about a dozen Teemo-esque picks all in the meta and all good solo laners.

Just screw it. Give me enough sustain to reach the 10-minute mark and I'll be a happy melee main at this point.

Ariel the Cruel3 votes

I always find it funny how people complain about ranged tops. But assumes I'm a troll because I play mages top. XD

TeCoolMage2 votes

I honestly hate the fact people who complain about mage tops rush frozen heart in lane then complain when they're taking magic damage as if it were true damage

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

I've never had someone complain about me taking mages top.

I've had a Riven or two flip shit over me taking Soraka top. Cheese doesn't work too well if I never bother to trade. XD

TeCoolMage1 votes

omg I play Soraka top/mid too, her base damage is huge and I actually go 2-6 / 0-2 in lane against yasuos and tryndameres

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Nah you're just Cruel.

50000000000000001 votes

What do they build into? Or do they even build into anything?

FCJAAAAGOOOO2 votes

Tiamat, Raptor's Cloak and Crystalline Bracer.

Or you can sell 'em. Each one sells for 105gp.

They're only worth it if you have at least decent hp regen and resistances, and it's preferable that you can build at least one into somethng useful immediately. Fun fact: Heimerdinger has 11 starting base hp regen. I think second place goes to Sion or Darius.

50000000000000001 votes

Do you know if that's better than item 1029 item 2003 or item 1029 item 1006 item 2003 start? For raptor's cloak I think the second one may be better, but I haven't looked into it yet.

FCJAAAAGOOOO1 votes

If you're up to try HP Regen Quints or your pick has good healing already (nobody but supports and junglers come to mind really), and you don't get a lot of resistances from your runes or masteries, Cloth + Bead + Pot will pretty much be the same thing. If you're ever going to start with Cloth it needs to be effective - the more armor you have besides the cloth armor the less % damage the cloth armor will reduce. Starting with 4 Potions is pretty bad unless you can use them to somehow dominate the lane early against anyone.

I'd still stick with getting resistances from your runes and masteries and not starting with cloth armor, especially if you have a lot of hp regen like Darius or Sion. So long as your effective health is good, the all-bead start will be good.

Spoofghoul1 votes

its better to start 2 beads 4 pots if you need sustain

you can always buy an extra bead later

morris12 votes

Part of what makes Heimerdinger item 3512 item 3060 so good. But now they "reworked" item 3060 so there's that.

RavenMagus1 votes

Well, if you were playing full-on Boringdinger, you weren't planning on having much AP anyways, I guess.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

Nidalee, Graves, and Kindred all get nerfed pretty regularly. They may still be strong but at least Riot tries.

Come to the jungle. Melees live in peace here.

KoKoboto8 votes

Didn't think about it but yeah this is gonna hurt melee laners really bad, they should make it do like half damage if you're ranged

FalconPawwwwnch4 votes

It's actually bugged and even stronger than patch notes said

Client it's a 6 second CD

XinCrin3 votes

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Sona x Rubick5 votes

look at the new mastery thanks

XinCrin3 votes

I can't find the change. Can you tell me what the exact change is?

Sona x Rubick3 votes

alright since you couldn't find it, i just put it on the op

Cosmic Warper3 votes

Yeah next season is looking like many melees are going to rot in a hole due to the mastery changes and the blasting plant being the two final nails in the coffin.

Wolfram Oxford2 votes

Look at the tank masteries and then try to complain about ranged champions.

ff4sk7 votes

Tanks have to actually get to you to deal any damage. An adc can crit you for 500 damage with 1 auto from behind the safety of his minion wave.

Unless it's jihn, then he crits you for 1k on his 4th shot.

Bladerunner77779 votes

??????

Yes, ADCs crit you for 500 damage during the laning phase

Wolfram Oxford6 votes

Yeah don't you hate it when you are laning against an ADC and they just crit you for 500 damage at level 1? ADCs should get nerfed and tanks should crit for building armor. Plus Thornmail should disable lifesteal and deal 10% of the enemy ADCs max HP in true damage every auto attack, that way tanks don't get deleted after 1 second in a team fight. Like what is this? I go into their team and die after 1 second. Proof ADCs are broken right? Game is balanced around ADCs lol.

Ahristocats3 votes

hey, just get out pls ty.

Wolfram Oxford3 votes

Don't you agree that ranged champions are broken? Come on help me out kappa.

SirHeavyScrotum1 votes

I think it went over a lot of heads, lol

Cosmic Warper6 votes

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Tanks have to actually get to you to deal any damage. An adc can crit you for 500 damage with 1 auto from behind the safety of his minion wave.

Unless it's jihn, then he crits you for 1k on his 4th shot.

This mastery isn't going to affect anything outside of laning. we're in the context of laning, and in laning no adc crits for that much

MontethePython1 votes

Excuse me, i play a bit of jhin and jhin will crit you for 1.6k-2k, plus always build lord dominiks on jhin, so um have fun stacking armour

Ariel the Cruel7 votes

Yes. Look at resolve tree. Not like they lost 2 of those to favor ADC's already. ;p

Ralanr1 votes

You mean siegemaster? Fuck siegemaster.

SirHeavyScrotum3 votes

How is siege master even remotely useful

Ralanr3 votes

A nice little pat on the back for losing lane.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

I swapped to Siege Master on Garen.

Figured it would help in the tower dives

SirHeavyScrotum1 votes

It's only for allied towers...

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I mean dives to my tower lol.

Best princess EU1 votes

don't forget the bork nerf revert

SirHeavyScrotum1 votes

Where did you see that?

Irelia Bot1 votes

it is on PBE currently and back up to 8%.

morris11 votes

It's horrible now, what are you trying to prove?

Amasa Delano1 votes

That description is a reference to the goal for tier 2 masteries in Ferocity that they described a paragraph or two before that in the patch notes. I don't think it's a full justification for the new mastery, just a clever self-reference.

Dengeden1 votes

You seem to be doing just fine with not Irelia (and Riven, seriously? She got shafted by S6 more than any other champion)

You do realize how ridiculous you sound when you say 10-15 extra damage will do something, right?

UnderscorBunnies1 votes

Gp with bandit rofl

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