Can we finally get an item to counter Shields?

Shadòw·5/29/2017, 8:52:28 PM·12 votes·4,561 views

It would be cool if we could actually finally get a way to do something about this ridiculous Shield Stacking.

There are Grievous Wounds when you need to deal with enemies that can heal too much, but why isn't there a way to counter Shields? Usually these Shields are tied to extreme low cooldowns on top of being already strong so there aren't even much windows to punish enemies for misplacing a Shield. (Karma Shield has 8 second CD without CDR and holds for 4 seconds, Ivern is also on a 8 second CD, Janna has 10 seconds CD but holds 5 seconds)

With CDR the Cooldowns are almost nonexistant.

It's just not fun to play against this, especially when someone has item 3190 in addition to that and the enemy ADC suddenly has more HP than a tank.

So why can you counterbuild against almost everything, but not against Shields? They are simply so frustrating to play against when you don't know what to do against it.

17 Comments

SnakDatSmilesBak5/29/2017, 9:00:13 PM3 votes

Shields get diminishing returns when you over-shield an ally. For example let's say you shield for 1000 points and the enemy gets through 500 points. This means that half of that shield was useless. This already discourages shield stacking and rewards carefully timed shields instead.

However, I agree that shield stacking is too rampant in this game right now. There needs to be a larger penalty for over-shielding imo. Let me know if you agree or disagree.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku5/30/2017, 12:56:12 AM2 votes

Why ? i feel like its funny to go against Draven/KogMaw with Lulu/Janna &Ivern [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Aeszarck5/29/2017, 9:01:04 PM2 votes

The reason why shields are allowed to be stronger than heals is because they're meant to be temporary. Heals get back health permanently, while shields will run out. I don't think an item to counter shields is necessary, maybe just nerfs to specific shield abilities.

Nymzo5/30/2017, 12:07:41 AM1 votes

The problem is that you have to be careful when you request an item that hard counter too much a specific thing in a champion kit, making them useless most of the time.

Remember when item 3140 would remove Zed's ult?

The worst offender has to be Soraka because she gets hard counter by item 3123, a 1800 gold item that can become a nice armor pen item.

Rexxiee5/30/2017, 1:12:41 AM1 votes

Theres nothing wrong with shields, ot atleast there wouldnt be if fucking redemption and locket were removed from the game.

In fact they should do that instead of nerfing champs that dont need nerfs with a anti shield item because of lulu or ivern abusing the fuck out of OP support items.

Subject 55/29/2017, 8:56:57 PM1 votes

Jhin "There was this one time that I Auto'd once, and instantly blew somebody the fuck out of my way; just then, I took the perfect picture of my performance." Janna "Why do you want to take away my identity?" Zed "More support nerfs? Great! Now we just need to remove Zhonya!" Garen "Demacia. That is all. Demacia. That and 1K true damage." Lulu "I don't know . . . supports are already an underplayed class- I mean hell I can't even solo lane without-" summoner 14 Riot: "Lulu?"

Aljonau11/6/2017, 9:36:04 PM1 votes

If this game was less about bursting and if adcs had less damage against other squishy targets then shields would automatically be less vital. At the moment shields are the only counter to a big problem: everybody is too squishy towards burst and everybody including adcs somehow bursts hard.

Asayake 5150glow5/29/2017, 9:29:57 PM1 votes

I would rather have a mechanic that counters shields. The current overflow mechanic is a start, but it does nothing against spacing out shields and just plopping another one down when the shield is destroyed.

I think there should be a soft cap on shields, like the Heal debuff which reduces the effectiveness of another Heal after one is used, additional shields from different abilities are, I dunno, 20%/40%/60% less effective? Maybe the debuff lasts 10 seconds, refreshing with every extra shield.

Nomad Sol5/29/2017, 11:34:57 PM1 votes

Nah they need another item that reduces DoT damage instead