Tanks, and their overwhelming power in every game I play.

His Goatliness··3 votes·662 views

IMO tanks have always been a little too strong, but in the past you could deal with them with a little outplaying. Every single game I play I notice more and more that tanks are providing little-no counterplay. The only items that sort of "counter" tanks are either only useful on some champs, or a futile attempt at doing damage. You can get black cleaver, LW, and blade and still get trounced 10 times out of 10 by an amumu with a thornmail. You can play just about any ap mid with all the Mpen items and your full combos/sustain won't be enough to kill, or even escape, a tank past mid game. Even when you do manage to kill a tank as say, vayne, it took you so long that the entire enemy team is now behind you and you get murdered, or even aced.

TL;DR tanks are becoming way too strong in this meta, and it's getting incredibly annoying having to deal with teams that are made up of 3 tanks an adc and a mid.

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TehNACHO2 votes

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You can play just about any ap mid with all the Mpen items and your full combos/sustain won't be enough to kill, or even escape, a tank past mid game.

See, with this one line, I know you have no idea what you're talking about.

LifeCyclesTWA2 votes

"You can get black cleaver, LW, and blade and still get trounced 10 times out of 10 by an amumu with a thornmail."

Why the hell do people think that armor penetration and lifesteal somehow weakens the damage return from thornmail? Its doesn't. Life Steal weakens it by a very marginal amount. If you are having trouble with tanks build Spirit Visage. The damage that is returned to you is magic damage. What reduces magic damage? Magic Resistance! Hell, try a Maw of Malmortius even.

But please for the love of god, stop bitching about how you got killed by a tank when you have 0 defensive items. By the way, his items are cheaper! He will have 3 defensive items by the time you have BotRK and Infinity Edge! So please, just stop with this nonsense. Use your brain. If a tank is in your face and you have 0 defense, YOU SHOULD DIE! Why is the tank in your face in the first place? Its because either 1) You were caught out of position or 2) You lost a teamfight, with the possibility of 3) The person who is supposed to be peeling for you sucks.

So instead of asking yourself, "WAHHH WHY DOES THAT GUY TAKE SO LONG TO KILL" why don't you try improving as a player.

t3hcollective2 votes

TIL: LW is futile at raising your overall damage (or is it only good on some champs?)

Just because you can't shred the entire enemy team with your adc doesn't mean another class is too strong.

1000angrybees2 votes

I dont know how to feel about tanks personally. I just know they have very strong late game to make up for their general game power curve, and I also know that tanks are meant to negate ap burst. Mid laners arent meant to take down tanks unless they're taken on with another teammate or they already have low health. Tanks > burst.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

You can play just about any ap mid with all the Mpen items and your full combos/sustain won't be enough to kill, or even escape, a tank past mid game.

Cassiopeia, Karthus, Vel'koz, and Malzahar beg to differ. Anyways, mages typically excel at bursting squishy targets while the ADC is the primary source of sustained damage on a team. The mage should either soften the tank for their ADC or focus on killing the enemy carries.

Even when you do manage to kill a tank as say, vayne, it took you so long that the entire enemy team is now behind you and you get murdered, or even aced.

You have a team as well. If they can't handle it, then the enemy team played the fight better.


Looking at your match history, your biggest issue is probably the fact that you tend to build full damage without defensive items. Tanks have good base damage but they usually can't itemize for penetration, so a little armor or MR can severely reduce their damage.

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