1 Complaint/ Question about Fiora

UberAffe··1 votes·322 views

Riposte as an ability and how it fits Fiora confuses me.

"Fiora stabs her sword forward, dealing magic damage" ... what, why is this magic damage? it is literally being stabbed by a sword ...

My biggest grippe with this ability is that it is a multi- opponent ability. Fiora is a Duelist, a 1v1 er, so why does she have an ability that is so strong against multiple opponents at one time? Why is one of the most common tactics a fencer uses on such a long cooldown?

This is how I would remake her Reposte if given the chance.


Active

  • Fiora attempts to parry an ability or attack in the next .5 seconds and follows up with a stab of her sword.

  • If Fiora successfully parries an ability or attack she attacks in the direction of the source now instead of waiting the rest of the time and this ability is put on a 3 second cd

  • If Fiora's stab hits an enemy

  • has their movespeed reduced by 35% for 1 second

  • has their attack speed reduced by 35% for 1 second

  • the remain cd of this ability is halved

  • If Fiora does not parry an ability or attack during this time or hit an enemy with her stab, she is left open and takes extra damage for the next .5 seconds

  • Costs 60 mana to use, half is returned if an ability or attack is parried, or if her stab hits an enemy

  • Cooldown 10/9/8/7/6

Passive

  • Deal 10% additional damage to impaired targets. (works with crits and abilities, not on-hit's from items)

This change would increase her ability to duel a single opponent while also reducing her effectiveness when facing multiple opponents. Which at least in my mind is how a duelist should be.

Comments on this idea? Better ideas? Reasons to keep this ability unchanged?

6 Comments

ReshiKillim1 votes

I think it's pretty healthy at the moment, though I agree that it's kinda weird for it to scale with AP and be magic damage. I think this part is riot's hand to the age old AP Fiora that is long past. (It was a thing and it was hilarious on URF)

And honestly, I think it should be as it currently is. It's not too strong, though it's a game changer when used right. (Dat 0.75 seconds)

Giving it a CD reduction would actually be much more frustrating in general, even if it only blocked 1 thing during the duration.

UberAffe1 votes

Personally I find her to be too strong in team fights because of this ability. I see her almost like Kha, she should only really shine when she is able to single someone out. To me that is what her role as a duelist means, and right now she seems like too much a generalist champion.

It would be more frustrating in a 1v1 situation, but it would be extremely difficult for a fiora to use effectively with multiple opponents. It would leave her much more open to cc in a team fight.

Right now I see it blocking 2-3 things at one time in almost every team fight, which in my mind just doesn't fit her character.

And I had forgot about AP URF Fiora.

Catastrop1 votes

{quoted}

I think it's pretty healthy at the moment, though I agree that it's kinda weird for it to scale with AP and be magic damage. I think this part is riot's hand to the age old AP Fiora that is long past. (It was a thing and it was hilarious on URF)

Not really. I think it's more about balance here, considering that previously all it did was block one attack and reflect some magic damage. Whereas now it can block multiple things and depending what was blocked, stun or slow. It would just be too OP if it scaled normally with AD. Then she could just max it first to lower the cooldown and throw it your face every time you attempted to do anything.

UberAffe1 votes

I was thinking of the damage being that of a regular auto from her(on-hit's crits what have you) and the range would be based on her current movement speed. Something like 50 units plus half her move speed. That would be the same as walking for that time and gaining 50 range for an auto.

Ser Garland1 votes

Ice Rapier from Dark Souls. Nuff said.

Catastrop1 votes

I think it's quite fine how it is right.

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