Riot buffing dmg on tanks, except for the one who actually needs it..

Warpes·5/5/2019, 2:03:27 PM·14 votes·3,320 views

Singed

Currently Singed is forced to build full ap just to be relevant, because his base dmg is so low it can't compete in the current high damage meta. And as such, ironically, all tank builds are out the window. He's also still roughly in what, 40th place for top lane? Even behind a bunch of champs that aren't considered top lane picks..

We've asked for meaningful buffs for like 8 months now and got some fluff ones to shut us up. Even on r/singedmains there's a meme now about how we've been nerfed so bad, the only thing left to nerf was his lore (apparently now his name is 'peter singed' /wrists).

Stop buffing the damage on tanks that don't need it, and give them defenses like everyone and their grandparents are asking for. And give Singed some BASE damage while keeping AP ratios the same, so he isn't pigeon holed into the same AP build, just to barely scrape by.

Every other tank in this game is getting damage buffs while not asking for it, except for Singed. We actually want damage so we CAN be tanky again.

22 Comments

Daddy Ants5/5/2019, 3:48:09 PM13 votes

I'd rather not see singed in every game.

Champ is low interaction.

dying game btw5/5/2019, 7:22:00 PM3 votes

Correct me if im wrong, but I think the problem with singed is that he has no counterplay, he only has counterpicks and even if counterpicked it doesn't make the lane fun for the enemy. If you pick wrong champion singed just does whatever he wants and it means 0 interaction, you just keep away from him and he does proxy. And if you pick right champion its not like now you can have a normal interesting duel, its just boring statcheck that also leads to no interaction if both sides know how to play that matchup. Either your champion can kill singed before his poison kills you or not. If yes than singed has to stay away from you, if not you just farm and dont chase him. Because this champ always does the same thing, he just runs away from you, so everything boils to one thing - can you kill him before you die from poison.

In summary:

  1. singed strong - people don't interact with him, becasue there is no outplay potential in duels with champion that just runs away from you.
  2. singed weak - people also don't interact with him, becasue singed knows he won't poison his opponent before he will kill him, so he just stays away.

Another important thing, singed is kinda immune to ganks from "wrong" champions. If nor top or jungle have strong cc than there is no reason to gank him. So very often not even a jungler can fix matchup with singed. Whole laning phase looks like that: singed proxy, other top tries to farm whatever he can and slowly loses tower. Singeds jungler avoids top becasue it is pushed, enemy jungler also avoids top becasue he can't do anything to deal with singed. Buff for singed mean more boring games so In general its good for playerbase if champion is gutted.

Pandemic Punch5/6/2019, 9:50:46 AM3 votes

I find it interesting that Riot classifies Singed as a tank.

But not DrMundo Nasus or Volibear who have superior survivability. Don't mistake me as someone who believes those three champions should be classified as tanks because I don't. Singed is just completely useless with no damage items while it is optimal to build nearly full tank on Mundo and Voli. Voli's CC is also more reliable. Hmmmm

EchoForce465/5/2019, 5:54:48 PM3 votes

singed is a brain dead champ that honestly doesn't need buffs, he is frustrating to play against and you cant do much to him with how tanky he gets

Hot LeBlanc Yuri5/5/2019, 6:27:54 PM2 votes

Singed doesnt need buffs, he needs reworks.

Snowbrand5/6/2019, 12:10:58 PM1 votes

He is not a tank, he is an AP Bruiser. Just to clarify and he shouldn't get a tank treatment since he is not a tank. But a buff would be nice.

SweedishGunner5/5/2019, 5:24:26 PM1 votes

Having to build damage to do damage isn't a bad thing, especially in Singed's case.

ChiefDovahkin5/5/2019, 7:07:39 PM1 votes

It's tough to cite a champ with such a punishing play style and high skill cap as having a low winrate. Singed is not "that" bad right now. No he is not super great into the bruisers pointed out above, but that's because his playstyle relies on him having full manipulation of the wave at all times. Typically, he isn't going to do super great into lane bullies. The thing with Singed is he relies pretty heavily on your lane opponent playing poorly around you and jungle pressure from both sides is critical. If your jungler recognizes who you are and what you do and coordinates with you, Singed can take over a game at level 2. If your jg is a sheep who spends half the game farming krugs, you'll probably get abused through the early game. Let's not forget Singed doesn't regularly take flash and all the hard gankers like hec/j4/rek/amumu are good right now. Just not a good meta for him for like the first time ever. He hasn't been bad long either, last season he was pretty strong until like the 3rd Righteous Glory nerf xD.