RIOT. time for action. how to actually make support desired and fix queue times

Kaokentake·3/20/2016, 5:56:18 PM·3 votes·1,082 views

bump / upvote this thread if you actually want to see something called results.

what is results? in this case. results are an actual improvement in queue times.

we will not see an improvement in queue times unless real and actual solutions are considered by riot. and i believe i have the best solution. so bump/upvote this thread if you agree with my solution and want to see results

anyone who is not a support main is getting near 20 minute queue times even in silver/bronze

why? because no one wants to play support. so the system is basically just a waiting line to wait for potential supports to come into the system to create games

there are only 2 ways to actually create more desire to play support

  1. buff actual supports ingame and give them more carry ability. massively changing the fundamentals of the game in who knows what ways, probably creating things like "support riven" botlane or something like that since supports would need equal gold amounts to carry equally

i do not support this method

or 2) buff support victory rewards. my current solution is to give support a 600% victory reward

i believe this is the best solution to the support problem. supports should get 6x the MMR / LP for winning a match. (but not hexttech rewards). having a massively higher win reward will give incentive to people to play support who are trying to climb elo fast

how do you know who really is supporting and doesnt just select support and say "mid or feed" to gain extra MMR?

simple. make it so the person on the team with the lowest gold gained from minions/monsters gains 6x the normal rewards for winning

and when you lose, you always get normal punishments sure. we dont want a feeder trying to get the lowest gold to get a reduced MMR loss

ALSO RIOT. this will cause a problem where support mains with inflated ELO get crushed if they are forced into jungle/top/mid. If someone plays only support in diamond, they can win games as support but would be absolutely ripped apart if they have to lane MID/TOP against a diamond MID/TOP player.

so i have a solution riot. this will probably increase the demand of support and cause support to be a "special" role where mains should definitely not be forced into other roles, and as such i believe there should be a "queue only support" option. this option allows one to queue only for support, and other roles cant do this.

if you want top/mid/jungle/adc you have to select 2 roles. but if you want only support, you are allowed to queue for only support

also i believe you should be able to queue for 2, 3, or 4 roles, or fill. or support only if your a support main. i do not believe you should be able to queue for ONLY top/jungle/mid/adc because i feel thats too strong of a advantage to let someone be able to play only 1 role and completely master it to climb. people who face that "1 role guy" without also maining 1 role would be at a strong disadvantage.

and now i want to finish with this point.

lets ask ourselves. why is it that most players do not want to support?

i believe i am a really smart person and i believe i easily have found the reason most people dont want to support. here is what i think the issue is

  1. when you support. if your team is bad / outskilled and the enemy team is better than your team. there is pretty much nothing you can do to carry the game and make yourself win. a support absolutely hes less "carry ability" than other lanes. because your champion has much less gold.

  2. when you support. you cannot control your teammates who have the high gold values on their champions and make them do the right things. no you have to rely on them and hope that they make the right choices. if you have teammates that make bad choices, you are powerless to carry and create a win

  3. when you play a non-support role. you play a role with much more gold / power on your champion which gives YOU the power to carry. if you are playing mid/top/jungle and your team is bad compared to the enemy team, you still have power to carry the game and create a win because YOU are controlling the power of your champion and the high gold value your champion has

  4. these are facts that cant be denied. if a diamond support main and a diamond darius / irelia main played a game against eachother in gold elo with gold teammates, the diamond toplaner would have a 99% winrate if they played 100 games. due to him having more carry ability. the diamond support main would be completely powerless to carry his team due to the skill imbalance that exists in the toplane.

playing support simply put has less carry ability than other roles. and thats why people do not want to support because people even if they dont realize it mostly just care about their RANK / ELO / MMR / LP. by increasing rank rewards massively it will create incentive to support.

and now i have one more final thing that i think should happen for my idea.

my idea should be an "option" for support players. because once a support main reaches his real elo, winning one game would mean he loses 6 games in a row due to the mmr increase. this would not be fun once you reach your "real" elo

as such. i believe my idea should be called the "support MMR/LP boost option" and it is a simple little box your check ON or OFF next to your queue button.

when you check the box ON. it gives you a message saying "you are turning on the support MMR/LP boost option. when you win as support with this turned on you will gain 500% bonus mmr / LP. when you lose there is no extra punishment. this is designed to increase demand to support. also supports are decided by who gains the lowest gold in the game from minions/monsters so you cannot queue support and harass your team into letting you mid for extra MMR/LP. also please note that if you ever lose 3-4 games in a row as support it means you have reached your true elo and at that point you should turn this option off so you can get more fair games and respect your teammates who are trying to win"

7 Comments

Fizz n Your Ashe3/20/2016, 6:09:19 PM1 votes

I feel like you have alot of hatred through people who support alot. Not a thing to do with changing league community of the game.

And making it sound like people who main support constantly should switch roles more often for higher MMR...chance

But then again ..I don't see what's wrong with league supporting system in game atm.,other then the fact most "" supports"" don't buy sightstones until 18:mins in or not even at all which leads to no engagement for your teamplayers at all and no vision.

Kaokentake3/20/2016, 10:21:08 PM1 votes

bump for riott