Hate the Season 5 Jungle.

Ok this is some bull crap right here. There are what? 5 good junglers now? And buffs are too good from dragon and jungle pathing eather A: leaves you open to be counter jungled by not taking buff before your 3rd back. Or B: Die It's so bad Trundle can't even stay in the jungle for more then 3 camps. TRUNDLE with sustain only 2nd to Aatrox and Fiddlesticks . The smite cool down is way to long and the new hunter's buffs are just bad. The only good ones give smite a better CD and the one that stuns. (Hell, that might be the same one) Riot don't do this to us.

Riot needs to consult some regular summoners before doing something this big... There's theory and reality, the thing is that if you think something is a good idea, ask the people that are literally making it possible for you to do it

~Edgar A Pwn

Honestly, i have been jungling for 2 years now. These changes just do not make me want to jungle anymore. I hate them so much. Now i have to completely re-learn a new role to the same standard because it is just so messed up. Tbh i kind of even feel like giving up completely on LoL. The game just feels completely wrong. People are just abusing the smites right now. I mean, i am seeing like smites on top laners and mid laners. The game is barely playable. It just takes the fun out of it completely. And there is no competitive feeling at all anymore. It just all feels really hectic tbh :/

In my opinion, the new jungle should be very fun and technical. All of the new buffs from the jungle camps should allow for varied jungle gameplay that allows two of the same junglers to play a completely different game. Also, the new added gold for counter jungling is a great game addition that will enforce riskier gameplay. While it may seem that many junglers may not be viable, the new smite add-on's will help include more champs into the mix. The only issue with the new jungle is that it pushes out all low level players hoping for a good jungling experience. With limited health pots (because of new machete price) and more technique and knowledge required to jungle correctly, it denies low level jungle play. To fix this, Riot should include a jungling tutorial so that low levelers can learn. They should also do this because it is a hard role, and with the new changes, it will be even harder. And even today, the only way people learn is through guides and friends. Overall: Good change, good new mechanics, less play-ablility for low levels, and it gets my approval (if it means anything =/ ).

Wait when you say change the jungle, do you mean change the one theyre changing it to, or change it back into the old one?

Honestly not much champions use the Feral Flare.

Must be a main.

I love the new jungling stuff. Just from hearing about it. It offers a lot more strategy and lots of fun buffs to grab up. Gives the jungler more options, honestly.

There's even a buff to Smite where you get more XP and special boosts from smiting the big creeps. (big health restore, big mana restore, etc)

Hunter's Machete got a buff PLUS you can now upgrade it into a multitude of stronger items... which you can then enchant... like... how is that not a good thing?

I feel like this will open the door for a new meta of junglers. You can easily survive more jungle creeps with champs that might not have even been able to jungle before. You can exhaust a bunch of mana and then smite the Ancient Golem to replenish it. Then you can go kill the Elder Lizard to get back any health. That's less pots needed meaning less backing needed.

According to your poll, seems like you don't know a lot of people.

The only thing I know is from the things i have read and the videos I have seen. I really hope that this new jungle will bring back champions that have mostly disappeared. I am tired of seeing the same jungle champs doing the same thing in every game I play. Some champs are played so often that everyone knows what rout they are taking in the jungle.

I just hope that in this new jungle I don't have to see the same champs played over and over like Yi when feral flare first came out.

I like the new jungling system just that rammi was nerfed im not tanky anymore i get schooled over in ganks

It brought plenty of s ...if he wasn't bad enough...

All the smite-buffs seem kinda overly complicated and unneeded, but I don't think the jungle itself has to change. They probably do need to buff some junglers back into being viable though. The harsher jungle really cripples some champs in the jungle and not all of them have any other roles in which they're viable. It's all fine and good if Zed jungle can't work well now, but Sej isn't good many other places, man!

Season 1 Jungle main here, I'm loving it. Might even get me to stop spamming Dominion for a season.

What?

I'm use to the Jungle eating everyone's face save for a select few champions who can survive it.

riot is just challenging bronze 3 junglers to upgrade their tier 1 runes.

I actually shared your opinion for a long time man. But the jungle has more depth now - more to figure out. The technicality of it all gives the jungler more power to change the game, while also emphasizing the junglers mistakes. Also, instead of the jungle just a place to get some cs, the entire jungle itself has become its own series of objectives. More than just the dragon and the baron. One thing I think they need to fix a little is the extra gold for counter jungling. It's really risky and there is very little reward. I would rather clear two of my own camps than walk all the way over to theirs and clear two.

Would u riot really have ww in the jungle in next lcs? I mean... a lcs jungler afk farming untill lvl 6 thats great! I'm forced to recall at mn 3.30 with most of my junglers, it means that i have to chose between a half hp gank or a gank lvl 3 to a lvl 4 laner

Jungle Is the most gay thing in LoL eva. i give up on League. Selling my account to a homeless guy for his daughters panties.

Guys, they just took my previous comment down. All i want is some homeless dude's daughter's pantsu. Let's have some justice.

ROIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! STAHP TAKING MY COMMENTS DOWN!!!!! I'll stop posting them once i get 's panties. I'm pretty close to God and he will you.

K, riot. i'm sorry i didn't mean what i had previously said... i love you

I like the new Jungle --admittedly was so confused at first, but--. I've been playing the new jungle for the Thanksgiving weekend, with Xin, and find you can creep the leash camps pretty easily and can make it thru about 3-4 camps before going back. Before I could do 4-5 camps then had to go back --I could get blue but never red before--.

In the new jungle I hit blue first then straight to red via hitting Smite on red and heal right up --don't need 3 potions now--. Consequently, I now steel the blue camp across the river. so if i do well there then I can pick up the river and one of my camps when I come back.

Junglers have a slew of new game play options rather than the regular grind. For example, if things went well then my for my forth camp I have two choices: smiting the wolves for the Rift Spirit which detect the enemy jungler from ganking my team --alerts retreating hero between towers or ones with low health tower hugging-- or stealing from me as I jungle. Second I could grab the seeing eye and clear an enemy ward for my team mates!!! For junglers, I think this is a great boon to game play.

Way to go RIOT!!!

It's discriminating champions, can't Jungle anymore without backing after each camp so you can by 5 health pots, where else are u going to play her? she gets rekt in any lane

Not bad. With skills on riot your good to go , u find it hard? Go and play something easier like Pokemon

just nerf plz