Alot of people are sad about the black cleaver changes due to lucians abuse of the item, but what would be wrong with making his ult do magic damage instead? Sure itd be a bit weird with mixed damage but at least it makes black cleaver less useful on him and he can use his old standard build. Thoughts?
Wildstyle3 votesWould that not make him stronger being mixed damage?
Brownie Elfie2 votesI think the ult damage should be toned down a little so he wont be hell to itemize against, like the damage is good when you tank the whole thing but it wouldnt force u to build a complete mr item JUST for lucian
nm10101 votesSlightly better early, significantly worse mid-late while also making his meta build path much worse.
TeCoolMage3 votesWell kindred got similar treatment and it's pretty effective.
Tanks will of course build both MR and armour unless it's a full ad or 1 ad 4 AP team... more importantly split resistances are more efficient than stacking a single resistance, due to diminishing returns (which is why Corki is very odd damage wise late game).
Lucian is still going to be mainly physical damage too - and the best part is that he'll have trouble taking advantage of his mixed damage until level 6 when the tanks should be keeping an eye on the mages. In a full AD team he's nowhere as good as Corki and being an ult bot isn't particularly effective.
So it's a nerf mid and late game without touching his early game, maybe up the ratio or base to make it stronger now that it's not reliant on penetration.
LostFr0st1 votesPretty sure that would just make him harder to itemize vs.
Brownie Elfie1 votesI mean i believe he would still retain his weakness of armor, but we could probably tone down his ult damage if it were to be ap that way it wouldnt force you to build mr
LostFr0st1 votesThen the ult would just suck all around, and people would facetank it.
I think the solution is the same thing Riot has been mulling over for a while now: "tone down the bonus dmg to minions so they'll actually block it."
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesthen we would see 
Lucian suprized dont see it already
Salron1 votesSo you want to gut him
Brownie Elfie1 votesHow do you believe this will gut him? The intention is to change the damage to ap but not gut it. I think it will need to be toned down in damage so he wont be hard to itemize aganst But please give me insight on why you think this will gut lucian
Shadòw1 votesmore like the other way around.
this would make his Ult so strong against tanks because they usually have way more Armor than MR that it would even do more Damage than Full stacked Cleaver
I am Bob Ross1 votesthats actually a very good idea. Another option would be to make his passive only apply on hit affects once, or make black cleaver have some form of cooldown for auto attacks.
Xion The XIV1 votesDo you remember when Miss Fortune was basicly split down the middle for Magic/Damage. And how the tank/jungler was forced to buy MR against a Full AD team.
Brownie Elfie1 votesSorry I havent been playing the game for that long to ever witness it. How do you think we should solve the problem if you believe lucian will cause the split.
Xion The XIV1 votesIt's mostly giving him magic damage will just split him hard or give him Magic on a skill such as his W only. Look at Varus his W and Ult are Magic, but his AD is too high to ignore for a full AP. AP Varus mid used to actually be a meta thing. Same with AP Ezreal mid. The problem with Lucian atm is his passive double basic. I wouldn't mind if it procs after one skill, but it procs off ALL skills. Like have it proc after only Q or E with how Xayah is.
Unironic SJW1 votesIt actually procs off all her skills too. But yeah, making his ult magic damage actually works.