Get rid of autofill

Brownie Elfie·Nov 24, 2016·8 votes·1,217 views

The main purpose of autofill was to give people lower queue times at the expense of not getting their primary or their secondary. Now, I personally think this was not a good idea as it forces some people to learn more roles than they really should. Learning how to play 2 roles I am fine with, but performing your best at 3 or 4 roles I simply cannot do. For example, I'm a jungle main who takes top (primarily) as my secondary. When I go adc or support, I'm foreign to the fact that I must lane with 2 other people and at a disadvantage already since I am not well equipped with the knowledge to adc or support, leading to some advantages that the enemy can make use of unfairly, and since bot lane can snowball so hard, it normally ends in a loss. I'm willing to go through a longer queue time to not lose a game. Please consider my argument and at least think about removing autofill. Thanks :D

36 Comments

jmp231Nov 24, 20163 votes

This happened with me last night. I main adc and mid and I got auto filled to support..... I was somewhat clueless as to what I should be doing as a support. Was a very miserable game for me. And no one wanted to trade with me ;-;

khorneyNov 24, 20161 votes

ohh wahhh cry me a river. no one likes to supp so get over it and just do it im happy about autofill and forcing people to supp

KrystleNov 24, 20163 votes

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khorneyNov 24, 20161 votes

coming from the person who is crying that they had to supp

KrystleNov 24, 20162 votes

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khorneyNov 25, 20161 votes

yes my point is when they had draft and where you were not forced to supp but chose to becuase its what you felt like doing at the time.

KrystleNov 25, 20162 votes

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khorneyNov 25, 20161 votes

yes, people actually wanted to supp instead of now hey i realize i dont have to so now im going to refuse it.... no one is volunteering to supp.... but so far since they redid the ranked like 3 days ago, ive played 10 games and only supp 1 game and i just pick fill.. i find it amusing hearing people complain about crycrycry i have to supp

KrystleNov 25, 20162 votes

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khorneyNov 25, 20161 votes

there is a reason they tell you to play a number of champs in case you get picked for that role. i can careless what i play becuase i have my champs for that position.sure mid do not really have that much but what eves.

LostFr0stNov 24, 20161 votes

Before role preference you needed to know and prepare for all 5 roles. Either ask your team to switch or adapt, because autofill isn't leaving at least until they fix the lack of supports in the queue.

khorneyNov 24, 20161 votes

its called deal with it and supp

KrystleNov 24, 20161 votes

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khorneyNov 24, 20161 votes

no one likes to supp period, like 96% of the community. people hate it becuase its boring has no real impact and you are the reason for losing always. it doesnt matter if mid or top is like 0 and 8 in lane.

KrystleNov 24, 20161 votes

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khorneyNov 25, 20161 votes

sure bud. i got sick of giving my adc and mid like 8 kills each and losing becuase they build wrong or are just plain bad. or my adc getting like 10 kills and is fed but just stays bot for no reason then goes 10 and 10....... or my adc walking down lane and feeding goes 0 and 10 but somehow its my fault for not being in lane when i had 100hp left or similar...... ohhh if its as fun and awesome as you say do tell me why no one likes to do it there my man. when ranked was draft it was more fun but not so much now

KrystleNov 25, 20161 votes

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khorneyNov 25, 20161 votes

i can careless what i play becuase i only play like 8 champs and i play them for the different roles. jungler has the biggest impact in the game more so then any other lane. The issue with jungler sometimes is when he gets a lot of the kills...... or when ever the adc has rushed static or runaans they have got shyt on hardcore and a lot of times if they had bf sword they would have gotten a lot of kills..... who gets triple right off the back and backs and buys boots ... and long sword...... seen that way to much and i get pissed because im like gj guy you have 0 advantage over them and lost your chance to snowballl.

KrystleNov 25, 20161 votes

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khorneyNov 25, 20161 votes

how is that off topic.. i can careless abotu what i get... people should learn how to play champs in lanes. also i liek seeing people miserable in the fact that they have to supp which 99% youll end up getting

KrystleNov 24, 20161 votes

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LostFr0stNov 24, 20161 votes

At least before we didn't have queue time problems. Everyone got in and you'd coordinate with your team who would go where; people would even go so far as to explain their tentative picks. Autofill was last pick built-in.

Now everyone is obsessed with staying alert in case they accidentally miss their ban or pick turn. They don't even take the time to talk with their team anymore in case their own team bans their pick.

People are even hesitant to switch because "the great Rito" gave them that role and they must "follow the path of I got this role" because the new champ select always makes you feel under the gun and timed for everything. It'd probably be better if we all banned at once and they give an extra 30 seconds at the end for our setups.

KrystleNov 25, 20161 votes

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LostFr0stNov 25, 20161 votes

There's not enough people that fill. That's why they had to enable it in the first place.

I'd much rather the free for all with actual communication than the current silent champ select where nobody tells anyone what they're playing until bans are over due to the fear of their allies banning their champion.

At least then people would try to accommodate others. Nobody wanted their teammates on off-roles back then either.

KrystleNov 25, 20161 votes

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LostFr0stNov 25, 20161 votes

No, the reason they removed the "sometimes autofill" was probably because people found out how to get rid of it (stop the queue and queue up again; repeat until it's gone).

It wasn't about counting on people's niceness. It was about counting on people's selfishness to win the game.

KrystleNov 25, 20161 votes

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LostFr0stNov 25, 20161 votes

But the guy on the other side got autofilled top and he sucks just as bad. Pretty even.

We could go back and forth like this forever; it's not going to change the fact that they had to turn on autofill until they find a solution.

Brownie ElfieNov 25, 20162 votes

I see your side of the argument as learning all 5 roles, ut let me just explain to you how that shouldnt be the case. Ranked is where you practice at your best to test your skills and try to improve. Along the way, you are probably not going to do all 5 roles, but have a set main role while having a secondary just incase. You should primarily climb due to your knowledge of the primary role, not primarily due to the secondary role or any other role beyond that imo

LostFr0stNov 25, 20161 votes

Yes, I believe people should baseline know what all 5 roles do and have 1 champ at least for each.

That way they know what to expect from their teammates' roles instead of assuming stuff and then fighting because the assumption was just plain wrong when viewed by anyone in the actual role.

The skill I practice in ranked is leading the Llamas and I do that in a bunch of roles. Once I get holiday break I'll be able to play more though to actually queue as cycling primary / fill.

Brownie ElfieNov 25, 20162 votes

I respect your point as to know baelines of every role, but you must admit the fact that i should primarily get my main role rather than any thing else, primarily, dont you think

LostFr0stNov 26, 20161 votes

Yup, I agree about that. I know the feel when I really want to practice a role and keep getting my secondary without fail.

Adaren21Nov 25, 20161 votes

Okay what no one seems to addressed is the fact that when the new matchmaking system was made. The longer queue times had already been dressed because i was a known trade off that selecting roles would increase the queue times. And guess what? People were FINE with it. It was a worthwhile trade off. So why do we even need this? I've talked to many people. Seen even more talk about it and I've really not seen anyone that thought it was needed cause just about everybody would rather wait a bit longer to get into what is much more likely to be a good game. I know if a perfect world everyone should be able to do all the roles but guess what that's never going to happen. So now there's even more reason for people to troll if they get auto filled into a position they hate or know they are bad at. There really is no actual upside to it. Cause i'd rather be in a 10 or even 20 minute queue then be rolling the dice on wasting a game.

Brownie ElfieNov 25, 20161 votes

It seems the people who have agreed with me have posted comments of their own explaining their side of this problem while people who downvoted me just stopped by for the sake of a downvote....