But then I saw it with my own eyes. She kited a redbuff warwick when she was 10% until he was dead. In what way can this go untouched for... 5? patches now. She makes kassadin look stationary. Unless the idea is to just make every champ better than the rest this has to be nerfed. And if that is the plan then I think a lot of us will probably be all done here.
Deep Terror Nami17 votesIt's like chasing Teemo through his jungle; just don't. There are better ways.
Chaotic Reks2 votesor 
Leti the Yeti16 voteswow, kited a warwick.. uh thats real impressive I guess
Sirsir18 votesWell he did have his passive up already. Thats just a bit slower than a Yi
WarlockLaw5 votesI saw a kalista kite an ulting, youmuu's active yi once. Glad she was on my team.
Starcall Casey1 votesThat's a huge lie, I saw in Cowsep's steam he killed a 2.0 attack speed kalista with just his yommuu's on YI. lol
Dryditch3 votesI've seen Kalista kite a Malphite with max CDR chucking Qs every time they were up. ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE MAP!
She was being chased by a champion who not only increases his own movespeed, but also cuts his target's, and still managed to escape because of how bullshit her passive is.
Starcall Casey1 votesYou saw a Malphite get kited across the map by Kalista? Damn, you must be in the bottom of ELO hell for that bronze 19 Chase. LOL. Plus, Kalista (Like every ADC) get's destroyed by any form of stun or snare. Just stop picking Shitty champs with no CC and QQ'ing on the boards.
Dryditch1 votesName me one other champion who can ignore a recurring movespeed steal for easily 30 seconds?
Qsario3 votesJanna, but she has to get out of it with proper tornadoes (charge it and deny them choke points of your own escape route) and maybe an ult. This goes double if she has Mikael, Coin, TS, or mobility boots, all of which are relatively common.
She probably wants to save the W and abuse the passive rather than use it, though.
Starcall Casey1 votesSo many other champs can get away from malphite and other champs like him. I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Dryditch1 votesThere are very few who can get away from him by running.
Starcall Casey1 votesPretty sure you just made a typo because Most champs can get away from him unless he builds full AP then you're dead on sight.
Troy24262118 votesKited a champion that has a huge MS steroid and a gapcloser suppression ultimate when CC is supposed to be her weakness.
But yeah, totally unimpressive.
Knight SoIaire 6 votesnot to mention some range on his point and click q
1999 01 1724 voteswow, kited a warwick.. uh thats real impressive I guess
warwick runs faster than anyone with blood scent up so yeah it actually is
Oleandervine15 votesYeah, Kalista's passive is too much and I can't understand how it squeezed past development. I've seen her kite melee hard core, despite the gap closers and knock ups they've had, as it takes her absolutely no time to recover, while they have to go on cool down. Fixes to this without butchering it entirely would be severely truncating the leap distance (making it uniform forward AND backwards, I may add), and/or having her distance be affected by slows. The concept itself isn't bad, it's just been executed without any thought as to how it interacts with the rest of the game.
Hedønist2 votesthey are ways to get her still with champs with point and click abilitys and ults
. Her mobility is also made up for her short range and how squishy she is.
Sirsir16 votesShort range- 550 range, completely standard ADC range Squishy- She is an ADC and she generally builds so much lifesteal she is like a bruiser. A really really weird bruiser. Having a couple of counters doesn't mean its balanced
Pryotra2 votesThey are removing point> click abiltiies because Toxic no Counterplay.
This is not a permanent solution.
TheRainInSpain3 votesI thought it was "Toxic, can't make lcs big plays"
Pryotra3 votesLCS big plays are derivatives of counterplay.
Without counterplay, there cannot be LCS big plays.
Chaotic Reks5 votesthey should just remove fucking autoattacks while they're at it
Dalthine2 votesI actually had an idea last night that would allow melees to still have a chance against her without completely changing the passive. Make it so that she can only hop if her target is a minimum distance away. That way, if you can cc her, cut her off, or gap close, she has to choose between trying to kill the person in her face, or aim at a distant target to escape.
It can make sense physically because she might have to get the full movement of her spear throw to maintain the proper balance for her hop, and a close enemy ends the throw prematurely. Thematically, it plays up the soul bond too because it promotes teamwork with the support to stay safe.
TheRainInSpain6 votesWould be cool if her passive required mana to work. "Mana gated champions". I have to say there's like only two Marksmen that are actually gated by mana (Jayce and Urgot). At least there is only two annoying mana-less assassins. You've got basically twenty mana-less AD carries running around.
McAllister1 votesDon't forget Varus. That Q gets up to 90 mana. I build Essence Reaver on the guy.
Krully11 votesI remember being a tanky cho against her. She was all attack speed so was doing hardly anything. She was like an annoying fly that I couldn't hit so I was just going back to base. Then she used rend and about 3/4 of my health went.....
2pudge1cup11 votesOne word:
CertainlyT
Serenity Now7 votesPretty sure her passive will eventually get re-worked into an ammo system so that she can't kite indefinitely.
As it is now, a little AS and she can't be caught. Even with a gap closer, she'll get away unless you can follow-up with hard CC.
It's like chasing old Nidalee with a 0.5s Pounce cooldown.
YOU BEEN WARNED4 votesOld nidalee didn't auto you every pounce she made.
You see, here is the mega cancerous deal:
Riot loves kiting, a fundamentally broken mechanic. Kiting favors ranged & mobility characters 
> melee & immobile 
.
When you chase a Kalista, you are being AUTO ATTACKED! you're being fought AS the enemy is escaping ( same with Azir Q->E->R )
You finally reach that champion, you have less than 50% hp without dealing any damage. Well, she has a slow and an excute with her E so you either try to kill her now or die.
Do you get the bigger picture? He's killing you while running away. This is Riot's current idea of balancing the game.
Needless to say, I'm a DotA2 player now.
The Ellimiist1 votes[{quoted}](name=YOU BEEN WARNED,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdniU9yB,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-02-17T20:09:08.880+0000)
Needless to say, I'm a DotA2 player now.
lol with the shit LoL players complain about in balance I doubt anyone here could handle Dota. Would be making 500 threads about how faceless void 1v5 killed mah entire team with his ult xD
windwolf7771 votes[{quoted}](name=YOU BEEN WARNED,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdniU9yB,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-02-17T20:09:08.880+0000)
Needless to say, I'm a DotA2 player now.
I don't know if you're serious or not, but if you are I would love to add you on either the lol or steam client and try helping you learn
[{quoted}](name=The Ellimiist,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdniU9yB,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-02-18T01:51:54.083+0000)
lol with the shit LoL players complain about in balance I doubt anyone here could handle Dota. Would be making 500 threads about how faceless void 1v5 killed mah entire team with his ult xD
Void is a hyper carry if the game goes late, you: A: shouldn't have grouped up for it, B: should have evasion (unless void already built an MKB), C: should prevent him from ulting. A few examples: Orchid (5 sec silence with zed mark burst but for any damage done, regardless of source), silence, scythe of vyce (3.5 sec polymorph), or CC him as he dashes in and that's pretty much it
The Ellimiist1 votesI got to 5.4k, NA leaderboard playing void before Ti4. I know xD
windwolf7771 votesAh lol. So were a filthy void picker before they called you guys filthy void pickers haha ^^
The Ellimiist2 votesYup, then void became FOTM so I played TB while watching netflix and pretend im playing single player. Like a jungle yi kinda xD
windwolf7771 votes[{quoted}](name=The Ellimiist,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EdniU9yB,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-02-19T22:16:20.123+0000)
...Like a jungle yi kinda xD
Except TB can sorta push lanes with no risk because of illusions ^^ And actually since a certain patch nerfed damage illusions do to towers he's kinda fallen out of favor as far as I know
TheRainInSpain4 votesKalista might be the sole Marksman where it would be possible to factor in a Frozen Mallet into a build, just to spite people on top of her infinite kiting power.
KaisadiIIa2 votesI build Runaan + Frozen Mallet early game and it works really well. Unless the enemy support is Morgana, you are the sole queen of kite. If you make a mistake, you'll be safer thanks to that 700 bonus health and you don't really lose damage, since slowing the enemy means you can stack more basics and thus your E deals more damage.
KaisadiIIa4 votesFor all those saying that it was Warwick's fault to chase Kalista if he couldn't kill her:
This post is not about if Warwick made an error, the post is about if it is fair that Kalista can do that.
As an example, imagine a champion whose basic attacks ALWAYS executed enemy champions. Would you say that is Warwick's fault to die when he tried to kill him?
Narasimha2 votesI mean, its WW. He's not exactly known for his chasing skills. If you ever see a Kalista kite a Yi, Rammus, or even a Bear 5 Udyr, then its worth talking about.
XaviorZeroBlazer11 votesI mean, its WW. He's not exactly known for his chasing skills. If you ever see a Kalista kite a Yi, Rammus, or even a Bear 5 Udyr, then its worth talking about.
this has happened
Sirsir13 votesI dunno, Warwick with his speed buff on is pretty good at chasing.
TheRainInSpain2 votesBlood Scent level 5 passively increases Warwick's speed by 40% whenever an enemy champion within range gets below 50% health. Bear Stance level 5 actively boosts Udyr's speed by 35% for 3 seconds. That Kalista was 10% health. I fail to see how 35% is bigger than 40%.
DeadXera1 votesMonkey's Agility gives Udyr an extra 15 base MS, so you're talking 360+(.35x360)=486 vs 345+(.4x345) =483, but since those both exceed the soft cap, the boost gets reduced by a small portion, with WW getting reduced more since his multiplier is a larger part of his MS. that being said, the end result is only a difference of about 10ms. Adding in Boots only increases the difference, again because of WW having the larger reduction due to his larger multiplier being cut down. This is, of course, assuming both are level 18, considering Bear Stance typically gets maxed far earlier than Blood scent is likely to be. At any level lower than that, Bear5 udyr is likely to blow WW out of the water.
pE4CbxDPQO1 votesMonkey's Agility gives Udyr an extra 15 base MS, so you're talking 360+(.35x360)=486 vs 345+(.4x345) =483, but since those both exceed the soft cap, the boost gets reduced by a small portion, with WW getting reduced more since his multiplier is a larger part of his MS. that being said, the end result is only a difference of about 10ms. Adding in Boots only increases the difference, again because of WW having the larger reduction due to his larger multiplier being cut down. This is, of course, assuming both are level 18, considering Bear Stance typically gets maxed far earlier than Blood scent is likely to be. At any level lower than that, Bear5 udyr is likely to blow WW out of the water.
only if he has enough cdr to keep it up 100% of the time.
warpenguin5551 votesdid he not have ult? he coulda caught her if he did
Sirsir7 votesShe was at 10% so he probably used it on her already.
warpenguin5554 votesShe was at 10% so he probably used it on her already.
thats true yeah
the Anarchit3cht2 voteswhich makes him bad. why ult in a 1v1 situation if you aren't securing the kill with it?