Jihn is pick or ban BUT WE WILL NERF MF INSTEAD (oh and we won;t compensate her either.

Vegas Dad·3/8/2017, 6:55:44 PM·3 votes·1,174 views

So enjoy your 51 base AD lowest for ADC in the game, and enjoy your outrageous mana costs for the weakest abilities in the game. MF such a good good adc she gets used as a support instead of adc because she is so bad at adc lol.

Thanks for the compensation like you give every other champ you nerf. Instead for mf, you gut make it rain, gut her AS steroid, now gut double up, so much fun you made a champion that can only auto attack and press R and stand there watch all the mobility creep dash out of it and then dunk her while she stands there immobile ulting. Pro balance, but that Varus nerf really helped lol.

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sobi9993/8/2017, 7:22:49 PM2 votes

Look at their playrates as well. Jhin actually did deserve a bigger nerf than he got but people in this forum love him whilst they hate lee sin. I just hate all unbalanced champs.

Kaioko3/8/2017, 7:25:58 PM2 votes

MF has the lowest AD in her game due to her passive increasing it by quite a bit. Her only "high" mana cost is her E which you shouldn't be spamming unless you're playing support.

For that matter Jhin did get nerfs and the mastery nerfs will hurt him as well.

Stars Shaper3/8/2017, 6:57:46 PM1 votes

MF winrate was higher than Jhin in each section by a good 2%

If you think Jhin winrate was absurdly high then you shouldn't be so surprised about MF being nerfed first.

Your third mom3/8/2017, 7:52:22 PM1 votes

I'm not sure if Jhin is a problem, Lethality is though since before that, Jhin was in pretty good possition. Same case with varus since they gave High burst damage if uses lethality build, so varus could be changeg because while he has his Q hes also has infinate basic attacks, unfortunatly Jhin doesn't and he mostly relys on his burst, so theres no gold thread in nerfing them straight, but if they'd nerf lethality it would not only make them less powerfull, but also would stop all those pesky assassins of bursting down tanks. This is problem less for toplaners and more for support tanks.

EyeSlae3/8/2017, 8:36:39 PM1 votes

I agree with OP 100%. Rito thinks the adcin2017lul meme is because adc's are op. MF rises above B tier for first time ever and gets gutted.. GTFO

Rabblerouser3/8/2017, 8:39:31 PM1 votes

She built well into Lethality even before patch 7.2, which buffed Lethality even more, pushing her even further up. These changes were a long time coming. I'm guessing you've obviously never had an MF instantly proc Black Cleaver on ult and shred through even your tanks' armor. Black Cleaver recipe changes hardly stopped her from building it, either. This patch doesn't do much to lessen that specific pain point either.

They're not trying to gut her. They're trying to convert her back to crit because Lethality MF is hella unhealthy.

On the subject of Varus Varus, his nerfs were very much needed, too. Because it's not a very interactive play pattern. It's essentially free harass and waveclear all packed into one. Riot wants to make lanes more "interactive". Where there's never 'nothing you can do' about a match up. Its why they nerfed Zyra Zyra the way they did. I'm a Zyra main and I actually admire that way they nerfed Zyra. It trimmed her free power WITHOUT punishing those who put time and effort into learning the intricacies of her kit. Why punish mastery? Especially on a champ like Zyra who can be relatively tough to master. Instead of just putting plants up on a whim for free zoning, Zyra has to get closer into the fray and risk more (she's the epitome of squish) to actually damage you with her spells... though Zyras that are actually good already did that so it doesn't hurt them quite as much.

Now compare that to Varus's situation... #... Q-SPAM MECHANICAL OUTPLAYS!

They want to have him get closer for his damage and enforce the Blight detonation gameplay, which makes his lane more interactive since he has to get closer to apply stacks... where you can interact more and punish him for mistakes.

The dudes in charge of these nerfs are geniuses IMO.