Nocturne or Fizz?

Sworeclipse··2 votes·976 views

So, I want to play two champions, Nocturne, and fizz. They're both 4800 IP so I want to see who I should buy first. I tried out nocturne already and I think he's very fun but people are saying hes not THAT good. I never tried fizz but I've seen his insane burst and I wanted to try him out. Everyone says I should try fizz out... Which one is better in the jungle, Nocturne, or Fizz? Also, which one is better in top lane? Thanks in advanced :D

39 Comments

Friendly Ram2 votes

Noc is fun and cool and an absolute ass during teamfigDARKNESSS Fizz is strong and versatile depending on what your team needs but generally less safe early jungling then noc.

Sworeclipse1 votes

ok thanks! Imma get nocturne then fizz XD

Friendly Ram2 votes

Have fun and enjoy.

Jaskko1 votes

If Nocturne is fun for you then BUY him! What is more important to you ?

Having fun and enjoying the game? or just playing a "good" champion?

Sworeclipse1 votes

ah good point! Imma buy nocturne then :D

Penns1 votes

Nocturne is probably better than Fizz atm anyway, at least stat wise he is.

Sworeclipse1 votes

wow I didn't know that XD. ty for telling me that :D

TBF Zagros1 votes

I actually have Nocturne at mastery 5 and Fizz at mastery 7 and having tried both of them I can defenetely say that Fizz is way more fun that Nocturne.

Sworeclipse1 votes

Ah ok... I still might get nocturne first, but definetly fizz after

Jaskko2 votes

Wanna play together? xD

Sworeclipse1 votes

sure lmao, i friend requested you. But i'll brb in a bit gotta do some homework

Lugg1 votes

Fizz is stronger than Noc. He does some of the highest damage in the game, is WAY safer, and he is viable top, mid, and jungle. Noc is a good champ as well, but he can't carry quite as hard as Fizz.

Sworeclipse1 votes

Ah ok, thanks for telling me! I'm thinking of jungling with either nocturne or fizz, which one do you recommend?

Jaskko2 votes

Nocturne is a jungler.

Fisherman Fízz1 votes

Fizz jungle sucks really hard at the moment, id go nocturne then.

Sworeclipse1 votes

ah ok, ill go nocturne then

Fisherman Fízz1 votes

If you wanna play Fizz play him midlane, thats where hes decent, since the nerfs a few patches ago he really sucks in the jungle

Sworeclipse1 votes

ah midlane? I don't play mid because it's so popular and it always gets picked first. In ranked and draft the queue takes longer too. How about top?

Fisherman Fízz1 votes

If you mean play him tank top I can't really tell you much bcus such thing shouldn't exist and I don't play him toplane

Sworeclipse1 votes

nah, I mean pretty much the exact same way you play him mid. Just top becasue it's not as popular as mid. (ynow the usual burst one shot fizz not tanky)

Fisherman Fízz1 votes

Can work but keep in mind Fizz needs kills to snowball and that can be harder since you're more likely to get some tanks up there and once they start getting some MR it gets rough

Sworeclipse1 votes

hmm that's true. I'm not going to take snowball though, Imma just go flash, ignite. I'm going to build full magic penetration if they build magic resist :D

Fisherman Fízz1 votes

As for the use of the word snowball I meant getting fed not the summoner spell :P dunno if you thought of that.

Sworeclipse1 votes

oooooooooooooooh ok, why is the word snowball used to mean getting fed XD?

Fisherman Fízz1 votes

Imagine you're on a place with a lot of snow, make yourself a big snowball, now get it rolling down a snowy hill, it will just get bigger and bigger until it is so large that nobody can stop it just like the cartoons. Now put that term into use in League of Legends, a champion that snowballs is usually a champion that requires about 1 or 2 kills in lane to get rolling and murdering everyone.

Champions like Fizz Akali Leblanc are good examples of champions that snowball hard.

Sworeclipse1 votes

oooooo ok. And guess what? FIZZ IS IN CHAMP ROTATION!!! i'M RIGHT NOW IN THE LOADING SCREEN WITH HIM LMAO!!! I'll tell you what I think about him after I'm done ;D

Fisherman Fízz1 votes

Alright, btw I've sent a friends request so we can talk more private xD

Lugg1 votes

Noc is the better jungler IMHO. His ganks are great since he can initiate from long range and bypass most wards. Plus his sustain in the jungle is better.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Do us a favor and don't spread cancer Fizz , thank you

Sworeclipse1 votes

I will spread it after a week when I save up another 4800 IP ;D. (probably not a week like two weeks :/)

GULAG 4 U1 votes

NOOOOOOOOO!

Sworeclipse1 votes

HUEHUEHUEHUE

TheDevice1 votes

Fizz is just a better champion than Nocturne

Nocturne can do some things fizz can't and vise-versa, but in the end you will have more success by learning/playing Fizz.

Personally, I also find fizz more fun to play. Nocturne is just and auto-attacker who has some cc and a point-click ultimate. He's really quite simple to use. The only thing that might require some good timing is his spell shield and his Q.

Jhin UItd JFK1 votes

Nocturne and Fizz both cover different niches, but both are good champions.

Fizz, as you probs know is the champion that makes anyone tilt by just being there. He can cover WAY more positions than Nocturne, but his mid lane is the best, with jungle being his worst.

Nocturne is rarely seen but it isn't because he was gutted like Urgot or Yorick; he has simply fallen out of favor in the wake of new kits and mechanics and champions that could do a similar job as Noc with "more on it."

He is very capable of being viable in solo play as the darkness from the ultimate can mess with the lack of communication. He can be built many ways, as an assassin, tank, bruiser, etc... He can be much more "reliable" than Fizz since most of his kit is point and click and isn't a hard champion to learn. Fizz however is a lot more safe, can be also played a lot safer but takes some time to learn and success can't be found right away.

Sworeclipse1 votes

dude, I was typing such a long message then i brushed my mouse cursor by accident and it deleted everyhting... WTF!!!! Well, what I was basically trying to say was if Fizz was good in top lane and that I will most likely get nocturne first so I will have another jungler.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Fizz is hard as fuck to jungle. I don't recommend it. He's too mana heavy for one thing but his base damage is too terrible to clear the jungle effectively at early levels. You can barely clear 3 camps before he has to back.

As for Fizz vs Nocturn. I'd prefer Nocturn to be honest. Nocturn's ult is just so powerful and him being an auto attacker means he has a lot of sustained damage. Sustained damage is great against tanks. Fizz on the other hand is pure burst hence tanks become a real problem for him. Nocturn can be built to duel tanks really really well, Fizz cannot.

Sworeclipse1 votes

ahh kk, I'll play nocturne jungle then :D

Meep Man1 votes

Nocturne because the amount of free AD that his Q provides is bonkers and his E's 2 second fear is amazing. He just gets so many free stats through his Q and W that it's hard to not recommend him. He can be played Top, Jungle, and Middle so he is really versatile.

Sworeclipse1 votes

Yeah, I've officially decided I'm getting nocturne first :D

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