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Zoe balance changes on PBE !!!!!

PeachyPosterior·2/27/2018, 3:59:10 AM·2 votes·757 views
2/26 PBE Update
  • Attack range increased from 525 to 550

##Paddle Star (Q)

  • (damage changed, now gains damage based on Zoe's level, Q first hit no longer applies passive's damage, AoE lowered to 80% for those not directly hit.)
  • Damage increased from 45/60/75/90/105 (+20% AP) to _50/75/100/125/150 _(60% AP)
  • No longer also deals More Sparkles! damage to the first target hit
  • Now also gains base damage based on Zoe's level 7/8/10/12/14/16/18/20/22/24/26/29/32/35/38/42/46/50
  • Now deals 20% reduced damage to enemies not directly hit.

Spell Thief (W)

  • Bubble acquisition range increased from 525 to 550
  • Damage increased from_ 70/115/160/205/250_ (+60% AP) to 75/120/165/210/255 (+75% AP)

##These we're her 8.4 patch notes Passive - More Sparkles! ######BASE DAMAGE 12/15/18/22/26/31/37/43/49/56/64/73/82/91/101/112/123/135 ⇒ 12/15/20/25/30/35/48/53/67/73/79/86/93/100/109/117/126/135 ######RATIO 0.25 ability power ⇒ 0.325 ability power

Q - Paddle Star ######BASE DAMAGE 45/75/105/135/165 ⇒ 45/60/75/90/105 ######RATIO 0.40 ability power ⇒ 0.20 ability power ######NEWPADDLE STAR NOT PADDLES STAR Paddle Star no longer applies More Sparkles' damage to enemies past the first hit

W - Spell Thief ######UPDATEDSIGNAL BEFORE SWAPPING LANES Minions can no longer drop Teleport ######MOVEMENT SPEED BONUS~~ 10/25/40/55/70%~~ ⇒ 30/40/50/60/70% ######RATIO 0.40 ability power ⇒ 0.60 ability power

E - Sleepy Trouble Bubble ######REMOVED LESS CONTAGIOUS YAWNS Sleepy Trouble Bubble's cooldown is no longer reduced by 10/15/20/25/30% when an enemy champion falls asleep ######UPDATEDSYNTHETIC ADRENALINE Removing Drowsy now prevents the affected target from falling asleep

**Please remember all PBE balance changes are NOT set in stone and are subject to change as seen fit. **

#What are everyone thoughts on these?

I'm happy her Q got some damage back, though I'm sad to see her passive doesn't apply on hit anymore. I hope it's enough to give back her waveclear. The range increase should also help her gain some extra damage.

Now deals 20% reduced damage to enemies not directly hit.

I'm not sure if this means enemy champions only, or enemy minions as well. Hoping it's only champions. If I Rioter could comment to clarify that would be lovely.

I'm not sure how much we'll feel her W's increase in damage but I welcome it none the less. Personally I think her E and R are in a fair spot after 8.4 that they don't need to be touched.

20 Comments

ZapMyHeart2/27/2018, 8:32:03 AM3 votes

Seems more appropriate now. They removed a lot of the toxic elements and extras that her kit shouldn't have had in the first place in order to streamline her kit in line with everyone else.

alpare012/27/2018, 11:29:47 AM2 votes

Tried her on pbe. She does even less overall damage then now, that's not a buff it's a nerf. At full build her passive damage on q was the only thing that kept her up. Right now (patch 8.4) her max range q does 1.2k on a dummy, in patch 8.5 it does 700... Sooo the damage on q got nerfed again in exchange for? More range and 10% scaling on w? Is riot trying to get her to 30% win rate?

alpare012/27/2018, 11:57:17 AM2 votes

The problem is that her q damage got nerfed not buffed. Removing her passive removes more than half the damage of the spell and the increased damage can't compensate

alpare012/27/2018, 11:53:43 AM1 votes

The problem is that like that she won't be able to burst a zyra with no defensive items

alpare012/27/2018, 12:12:52 PM1 votes

Dude start a game with zoe and look at the bottom part of her q, the damage from her passive has a min and a max removing that max zoe's q gets nerfed

alpare012/27/2018, 12:16:25 PM1 votes

I can post a picture but it's italian i don't think it would be that useful

alpare012/27/2018, 12:25:24 PM1 votes

How can her win rate increase if she's getting nerfed...

Rexxiee2/27/2018, 12:30:39 PM1 votes

They need to increase her Q ap ratio by another .2 ,as it is it takes 534 ap to even up with the current Q damage on single target, which is already kind of lacking atm.

alpare012/27/2018, 12:46:25 PM1 votes

Right now her q with 6 items does 105+134 to 265+335 plus the passive damage that does 546 just with the ap scaling damage on a max range q.

C90 Sweet Potato2/27/2018, 8:21:23 AM1 votes

Seen it a few moments ago. They did exactly what us high mastery points Zoe players have thought a long time ago. Increase AP ratio, remove passive (which makes no sense). So that she’s a glass cannon AP Carry that can only one shot if she lands her full combo (which requires an excellent positioning in TF) E Q Q R + AA (Max distance Q of course).

High risk (unless over a wall lol), high reward.

alpare012/27/2018, 1:15:54 PM1 votes

The scaling doesn't make up for that i tried it the damage is way lower as i wrote up there

alpare012/27/2018, 11:41:20 AM1 votes

The passive do scales on distance it's written on the bottom part of her q and right now it contributes to about 60% of the damage of the spell

alpare012/27/2018, 11:43:51 AM1 votes

Hopefully riot can see that and change it cause right now zoe could beat ornn when he came out when it comes to suck