I honestly feel like Fiora will never be solid.

Rivuo·Nov 24, 2016·2 votes·737 views

It feels like whenever i play her, she loses a lot of 1v1s, has very little teamfight presence and is too hard to set up.

This might just be my personal opinion but with all due respect the fighter class is extremely in a bad spot.

i fucking hate riven but in my mind she is one of the worst teammates to have.

It seems the fighter class just cant be balanced/strong. Im not including Irelia because irelia aint no fighter, she goes triforce--> full tank. Fighters usually have more offensive items.

Opinions? Thoughts?

15 Comments

HappyHazard07Nov 24, 20162 votes

As a main Fiora's absolutely fine imo. While I do think the fighter class as a whole needs a little love Fiora is on the better end of the fighter ladder. While Fiora is bad in teamfights admittedly that isn't her strength. You play her in order to scale into a side lane pushing god who can't be dealt with by 1 or even 2 opponents. The only issue is getting there as her early game is a bit lacking so she has to be careful of being squashed before she can get there. While you may see a lot of bad Fioras a good one is very powerful and will be a major boon to your team if you play around her splitpushing correctly.

Hinagiku33Nov 25, 20161 votes

My experience in Season 6 and now is that I either get gold and scale so hard I can 1v2 with ease, or I get denied gold early and I'm just dead weight to my team.

I feel like Fiora is a bit too feast-or-famine at the moment, but most of that is just due to her kinda lackluster laning. Her early damage is almost non-existent unless she procs a Vital, but that forces her into melee range and a lot of her top lane opponents are Juggernauts who can hit harder than her while also being tankier than her (because more of her power is in mobility) or are ranged and diving them to proc a Vital would put Fiora massively out of position and take tons of minion aggro.

Fiora just seems like she has no real fall-back options if her lane opponent is strong enough to poke her out of lane and/or zone her from farm. She can only sustain through poke by proc'ing Vitals, which only really works when she's ahead or at least even, and has no means of ranged last-hitting or wave clear to fall back on. She can hit something with her 30 sec W but that seems like a terrible option both for the long cooldown and it being her only defensive tool.

Akali is glass cannon melee and she can at least fall back on her ranged Q to last-hit and try not to feed. Katarina has her ranged Q also. Yasuo's Q has some range and he also has solid wave-clear with his E. Riven has AoE on her Q and W that she can clear waves with, and can farm and escape with E as a fall-back pattern. Tryndamere is pretty unhealthy and in need of a rework but has wave-clear on his E and can heal off some poke with his Q. Master Yi can pretty safely farm with his Q as a fall-back and also has a good heal on his W.

Out of all the glass cannon melee champs, all of them but Fiora can at least sort of farm and all of them but Fiora and Yi are manaless.

I love playing Fiora as a split-push Goddess, but goddamn getting there can be worse than having teeth pulled sometimes.

Jesus Is My KingNov 24, 20161 votes

:/ well, ive played against quite a few fioras, and her healing is insaine, her damage is too. but... im not a main, and i wouldnt understand... so... sure. i guess you could be right.

ph1234kNov 24, 20161 votes

Fiora is a beast IMO. I love playing Fiora and while there are certain matchups I don't like her in for the most part she can dominate lane.

Asayake 5150glowNov 24, 20161 votes

Her damage is a bit below where it should be against tanks tbh, but she can outplay most bursters.

MLDzXnRRRNov 24, 20161 votes

She is worse than Riven in almost every way, while having mana issues. The champion is also oppressive vs tanks - I smashed a Poppy today going only for the vitals, it was feeling unfair... I was a big fan of the pre-rework Fiora, because she was on of the funniest champions to play, if you don't mind losing braincells and just relax smashing the keyboard. Now you smash the keyboard and she feels weak even if you dominate with her. 5.18 and 6.4 nerfs destroyed the casual Fiora playerbase. If you wanna tryhard and main her, there are better champions with kind of similar playstyle. Btw, I don't think that there are any challenger Fiora 1tricks at all in any server. She just lacks something for me.

PoskeNov 24, 20162 votes

Fiora mana issues=?

Dafak=?

GO PLAY SOME godamn ANIVIA

Oh and a champion is perfectly viable

Its just that you low elo scrubs have no idea how to maximize your output and presence with fiora

Asayake 5150glowNov 24, 20161 votes

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She is worse than Riven in almost every way, while having mana issues. The champion is also oppressive vs tanks - I smashed a Poppy today going only for the vitals, it was feeling unfair... I was a big fan of the pre-rework Fiora, because she was on of the funniest champions to play, if you don't mind losing braincells and just relax smashing the keyboard. Now you smash the keyboard and she feels weak even if you dominate with her. 5.18 and 6.4 nerfs destroyed the casual Fiora playerbase. If you wanna tryhard and main her, there are better champions with kind of similar playstyle. Btw, I don't think that there are any challenger Fiora 1tricks at all in any server. She just lacks something for me.

A lotta challenger Rivens play Fiora as their secondary...

Off Meta EvanNov 24, 20161 votes

i personally hate fiora because she's supposed to be high risk high reward... but she scales into the late game really well which doesn't make any fucking sense. irelia is a fighter but she's the problem child fighter. she's one of those champions like Yasuo where every time an item or new shit comes out that will buff her, she's IMMEDIATELY op. old rageblade, new triforce, those two things ring a bell? her kit is just really volatile. and honestly a lot of fighters are hard to balance just because giving a mix of damage and tank of its own volition is hard to balance. like thats something that just inherently sounds fucking stupid. "i can 100 to 0 you with my full combo BUT, it takes you 3 rotations of all your spells just to kill me. git rekt kid." usually how they balance it out is by making them immobile or having some sort of gimmick but that either creates inorganic gameplay like how Darius is centered around shitting on melees but can't really do anything against a ranged champion because the options are literally just not in his kit to deal with those champions. OR the gimmick just isn't balanced enough to justify the damage/tank like with Illaoi . As a top lane main who enjoys playing 3 damage item fighters i think that its just really fucking hard to balance them. like how are you supposed to balance a champion like Aatrox as a concept? an early game vampire fighter that has shit tons of damage. that sounds fucking stupid. so they nerfed his numbers into the ground so he couldn't be that.

SpookyNeedleNov 25, 20161 votes

You're just not good enough with her, I think she's perfectly balanced right now, I sat at a 60% winrate last season with 195 Fiora games in ranked.

RivuoNov 25, 20162 votes

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I sat at a 60% winrate last season

SpookyNeedleNov 25, 20161 votes

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With the new fervor she's better, not much has changed, she's in a fine spot. Only buff I'd ever give her currently, is a higher slow on E

RivuoNov 25, 20161 votes

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With the new fervor she's better, not much has changed, she's in a fine spot. Only buff I'd ever give her currently, is a higher slow on E

she doesnt even use the new fervor..

SpookyNeedleNov 25, 20161 votes

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she doesnt even use the new fervor..

Then you're playing her wrong. I just played a game vs a mastery 7 trynd (but doesn't main him) that is 8-9 ranks higher than me depending on how you count. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2355953025/218856243?tab=overview Went tankier than usual because I hadn't thought of a new squishy build as I took a break from playing a ton of fiora